Comments on: Spring! http://www.historiann.com/2014/04/01/spring/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:41:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2014/04/01/spring/comment-page-1/#comment-1969111 Fri, 04 Apr 2014 19:38:20 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=22510#comment-1969111 No, it’s not a slur. It just means “outsider” or “non-believer,” at least so far as I understand it.

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By: Comradde PhysioProffe http://www.historiann.com/2014/04/01/spring/comment-page-1/#comment-1969083 Fri, 04 Apr 2014 19:18:07 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=22510#comment-1969083 People of any particular religion who are friends and acquaintances of highly educated liberal university faculty are not likely to be representative of those religions’ median adherent.

And yes, that is pretty funny. My impression as a youngster hearing my older relatives use the terms “goy” and “gentile” is that they are pretty nasty slurs against non-jews, with the former nastier the latter than the latter. Is it correct that mormons use “gentile” as a slur, and not as a neutral term?

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2014/04/01/spring/comment-page-1/#comment-1968973 Fri, 04 Apr 2014 16:40:26 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=22510#comment-1968973 You know, I share your suspicions about the purpose of the missions. But all of the LDS people I know are really lovely people–thoughtful, incredibly well-educated, and some of the most generous people I know. So if the purpose of the mission is to close the Mormons off from gentile society, it isn’t working very well by my lights.

You might appreciate this: A late senior colleague of mine who moved from Toledo, Ohio as a child to Salt Lake City used to joke that Utah was the only place a little Jewish kid like him could be called a gentile.

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By: Comradde PhysioProffe http://www.historiann.com/2014/04/01/spring/comment-page-1/#comment-1968964 Fri, 04 Apr 2014 16:28:47 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=22510#comment-1968964 I’ve always assumed that the point isn’t to actually rope anyone in to Mormonism, but rather to put these young Mormons through a very awkward and tedious process where non-Mormons almost invariably and repeatedly reject them. This ought to dramatically strengthen their conviction that non-Mormons are assholes going to hell and that Mormons are great and going to heaven.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2014/04/01/spring/comment-page-1/#comment-1968262 Fri, 04 Apr 2014 00:31:11 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=22510#comment-1968262 Hee. I’ve seen them out on their bikes again too. I’m now at an age that they seem adorable. You have to admire their dedication, especially the women, who don’t have to do a mission.

It’s an interesting historical phenomena, this releasing of 18- and 19-year old “elders” on the gentiles. I don’t think any other proselytizing faith relies on such young missionaries.

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By: Belle http://www.historiann.com/2014/04/01/spring/comment-page-1/#comment-1968226 Thu, 03 Apr 2014 23:57:43 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=22510#comment-1968226 As a friend noted the other day: “It’s spring! The Mormons are out!” And be damned, the next block a white-breasted, black legged pair was sighted!

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By: Indyanna http://www.historiann.com/2014/04/01/spring/comment-page-1/#comment-1967152 Wed, 02 Apr 2014 20:33:04 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=22510#comment-1967152 … not SQO in the skunks’ world, then.

Bees are at liberty, in any case. Free to be laborious, in the service of honey-eaters, as it were.

Not a lilac in sight hereabouts…

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2014/04/01/spring/comment-page-1/#comment-1966925 Wed, 02 Apr 2014 14:49:59 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=22510#comment-1966925 NB: when I lived in the rural, verdant east and drove 46 miles to work each way, spring’s progress was characterized by the baby mammals who left the nest only to get mowed down on the local byways. I can’t recall the exact sequence, but one week it would all be dead baby raccoons, another week all dead baby skunks, another week dead possums, etc., all as the phlox, daffodils, redbuds, tulips, and lilacs made their appearance.

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By: Northern Barbarian http://www.historiann.com/2014/04/01/spring/comment-page-1/#comment-1966870 Wed, 02 Apr 2014 13:38:37 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=22510#comment-1966870 Gotta get the snow off the ground first, although there’s finally hope here in New York! We in fact were a major hop-producing area in the earlier 19th century. I recommend a visit to the Farmer’s Museum in Cooperstown for a fascinating look at the festive hop harvest.

The skunks have the message — they are busy with their own “spring planting” under my porch. It makes them very happy, and they let the world know about it.

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By: truffula http://www.historiann.com/2014/04/01/spring/comment-page-1/#comment-1966700 Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:12:12 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=22510#comment-1966700 typical vegan agitprop [sic].

In what universe is the Tanner a vegan activist? Or the dairy wife? Or the beekeeper?

Anyway, here in the far south, we’re getting on toward musty senescence in the air, not bees. Shelves at the market are groaning under the weight of baby chocolate bunnies and chickies though, which is just weird. We’re preparing to plant trees and sowing seeds that will wait patiently through the winter.

Sadly, hops are a non-starter in my new garden, too windy. But we do have hoppy ale in the cellar.

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