Comments on: Summer fun cocktail: I haz it, but what shall we call it? History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:41:03 +0000 hourly 1 By: Historiann Tue, 04 Jun 2013 02:26:39 +0000 Of course–I should have figured. I forgot Hendrick’s is made in Scotland! Thanks for your note. Unfortunately, I live 1,000+ miles away but will hope to visit the Raven & Rose when I return. My friends & I had a terrific time over cocktails and charcuterie etc.

By: Natalia Toral Tue, 04 Jun 2013 01:42:02 +0000 Hi there!

Thank you for for posting this! We are honored to be in your post!

We named the cocktail the Bonnie Wee Lass, because it has the Scottish Hendricks gin in it, but would love to see what name you come up with! Hendricks is well-known for having rose qualities, so a petal from your favorite bush would be perfect!

Also, I thought I would stop in and see if you want the recipe? I would be happy to share, if you’re interested.

Talk with you soon,

By: Historiann Mon, 03 Jun 2013 12:36:39 +0000 Katherine–for sure! I’ll be back in August, and will give you a heads-up when I have the plans set. Those drinkies we had in April were pretty darn tasty, too!

Truffula: Right–it’s only American women activists who are capable of thinking for themselves. (Insider tip: claiming regional or national specificity is a transparent historian’s trick for deflecting questions that flirt with the outer reaches of our knowledge! “But Blargistan is different!” is a dodge, but it seems like you had this guy’s number all along.)

By: Katherine Mon, 03 Jun 2013 11:45:04 +0000 I like Rhuby Rose, (although alas, not so much drinks with gin). Looking forward to having a few cocktails with you when you are next in town!

By: truffula Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:37:39 +0000 Was your email exchange with Catherine?

No! It was with a very important dude. He offered to send me his book, I said sure, he never did, end of interlude.

I was part of an “orientation to Country” event at which this important historian gave the political history. His characterisation of suffragists as of use to temperance activists really rankled me but it took a few days to decide I had any place questioning important dude. So I sent and email to all the women who had been in the orientation, saying hey, those ladies might have actively chosen, you know, writing them as passive is dismissive of their aspirations and abilities. One of those folks forwarded my email to important dude (which was fine with me), and he wrote something like “the situation here was different than in the US so you don’t know what you are talking about.” That is, ladies in the US might have thought for themselves but here in this country, our enlightened forefathers figured it out for them…as a byproduct of something else. Boy, what smart and progressive forefathers we had. Lucky us.

Uh huh.

I’m glad he actually took the time to respond, I just wish it had been more constructive. Probably to his mind it was.

What I learned from this: speak up, on the spot. And practice for mastery the terminology in other fields where you have an interest. I may have been reluctant to speak up because I lacked confidence in my ability to use the disciplinary language.

By: Comradde PhysioProffe Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:50:36 +0000 Hendricks is fucken AWESOME gin! It has a lot of cucumber flavor in it, and so garnishing a Hendricks cocktail with a piece of cucumber works really well.

By: Historiann Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:47:09 +0000 Truffula–great connection. Was your email exchange with Catherine? I knew her in college, and in grad school she was roomies with one of my BFFs from grad school, so we hung out a lot. She published her book *really* fast after finishing at Penn. (She’s also the big sister of Elizabeth Gilbert, of Eat Pray Love fame. She would visit Catherine & hang out with us too on occasion, back when she was just a sweet but very smart kid at NYU.)

By: Shaz Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:21:11 +0000 See, conferences really are educational! I may claim this as colonial and serve it up to my grad students at our end-of-term celebration. Certainly did wonders for the quality of our discussion in Portland…

By: truffula Mon, 03 Jun 2013 00:27:05 +0000 Well, this was entirely distracting. It caused me to wonder about ladies drinking cocktails at all, which led to Domesticating Drink: Women, Men, and Alcohol in America, 1870-1940 by Catherine Gilbert Murdoch. Part of the analysis is that social drinking–cocktail drinking–outside of the home was a marker of empowerment after suffrage had been achieved. A Note in The Social History of Alcohol Review (Edmonds, 2002) adds some data. The connection between suffrage and prohibition is dear to my heart, every since I got in a little email exchange regarding suffragist agency with an eminent historian here in my new country of residence.

I questioned the framing that male temperance campaigners in this country included suffrage amongst their goals because it got them the considerable organizing power of the suffragists. I suggested that the ladies themselves also analyzed the political landscape and actively chose to accept the alliance. The email exchange was brief and unproductive.

Anyway, your cocktail is a take on a gin daisy, isn’t it? A flowery name, like Rhuby Rose, would be appropriate.

By: Matt_L Mon, 03 Jun 2013 00:03:02 +0000 Well, since Portland is the city of roses and the drink has rose water in it, maybe Portland should be part of the name… how about Rosie Portlandia

sounds like an excellent drink! The rhubarb finally came up in the back yard, maybe we’ll have to make a batch…