Comments on: Jonah Lehrer: a weird old trick that melts belly fat and makes 54-year old mom look 27! http://www.historiann.com/2013/03/03/jonah-lehrer-a-weird-old-trick-that-melts-belly-fat-and-makes-54-year-old-mom-look-27/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Tue, 23 Sep 2014 01:47:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: Prikipedia? Looking for the Women on Wikipedia - Tenured Radical - The Chronicle of Higher Education http://www.historiann.com/2013/03/03/jonah-lehrer-a-weird-old-trick-that-melts-belly-fat-and-makes-54-year-old-mom-look-27/comment-page-1/#comment-1378890 Sun, 10 Mar 2013 23:03:38 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20774#comment-1378890 [...] what’s up with this sausage party, as blogpal Historiann would call [...]

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By: Monocle Man http://www.historiann.com/2013/03/03/jonah-lehrer-a-weird-old-trick-that-melts-belly-fat-and-makes-54-year-old-mom-look-27/comment-page-1/#comment-1372910 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:44:14 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20774#comment-1372910 My monocle almost fell out when I read excerpts from Proust Was a Neuroscientist. Some guy who could barely get out of bed and wrote about smelly remembrances should be seen as a forefather to modern brain science? George Eliot should get a Nobel Prize in chemistry because her characters grew and changed? Huh? What’s next, Picasso as a quantum physicist because he colored outside the lines?

Look, it’s one thing for a medical student on a first date to claim that he is “kind of a historian” so that he can . . . uh . . . hold hands. But the premise and execution of this book was ludicrous and an insult to artists and scientists everywhere.

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By: Maureen Ogle http://www.historiann.com/2013/03/03/jonah-lehrer-a-weird-old-trick-that-melts-belly-fat-and-makes-54-year-old-mom-look-27/comment-page-1/#comment-1372035 Wed, 06 Mar 2013 22:54:09 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20774#comment-1372035 I’m going to go WAY out on a limb here — but I also disagree w/Tenured Radical’s take. I’ve been involved in “mainstream” publishing since leaving academia in 1999.

My experience has been that there are plenty of both agents and editors who want that well-researched book. I just finished my new book (like: two days ago) that I’ve been working on since 2006. The book before that took five years. The one before that either two or three (can’t remember).

I have a conventional agent and work with a plain ol’ editor — and no one’s complained about the long time frame.

I think it’s difficult to generalize about the publishing industry. Presumably there are those looking for The Next Big Thing. But: it’s not nearly so full of evil dumbasses as the rest of the world seems to think. Indeed, I’ve encountered few dumbasses. Mostly it’s a lot of people who love reading, writing, and ideas.

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By: Maureen Ogle http://www.historiann.com/2013/03/03/jonah-lehrer-a-weird-old-trick-that-melts-belly-fat-and-makes-54-year-old-mom-look-27/comment-page-1/#comment-1371990 Wed, 06 Mar 2013 21:58:04 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20774#comment-1371990 I take your point on that, but “mainstream” publishing tends to be a highly female industry, and those females tend to be youngish. Prolly ‘cuz it pays so badly…..

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2013/03/03/jonah-lehrer-a-weird-old-trick-that-melts-belly-fat-and-makes-54-year-old-mom-look-27/comment-page-1/#comment-1371804 Wed, 06 Mar 2013 17:33:22 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20774#comment-1371804 Interesting point, Maureen!

I guess I’m thinking about all of the white men in leadership positions: editor of NYRB, the Times book review section, The Atlantic, The New Yorker, the entire masthead of The New Republic (almost), etc. Leadership matters.

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By: Maureen Ogle http://www.historiann.com/2013/03/03/jonah-lehrer-a-weird-old-trick-that-melts-belly-fat-and-makes-54-year-old-mom-look-27/comment-page-1/#comment-1371772 Wed, 06 Mar 2013 16:57:10 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20774#comment-1371772 Mostly I agree (although it’s possible he’s got a housekeeper/nanny/cook so he CAN work 20 hours a day?).

But I disagree w/your characterization of publishing folks at white, male, middle-aged. Nyet. Certainly not at HMH (full disclosure: I am also published by HMH. But I’m not a plagiarist.) The corridors there are full of young, white, women. And THAT, frankly, may have more to do with how JL got into the system than anything else.

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By: Tenured Radical http://www.historiann.com/2013/03/03/jonah-lehrer-a-weird-old-trick-that-melts-belly-fat-and-makes-54-year-old-mom-look-27/comment-page-1/#comment-1370234 Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:19:52 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20774#comment-1370234 I did indeed mean discrete — no harm, no foul. I guess the difference I see, and I am not a fiction writer (but I did major in English!) is that a short story is a form, with a an autonomous and distinct structure. Thus, while a colleciton has a certain shape, each story within it has a complete trajectory, character development and narrative. Book chapters rely more heavily on their larger context: thus, printing an excerpt as if it were a short story (which is what the New Yorker does, as it slid into this practice without actually identifying what they were doing) seems sleazy to me.

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By: Shelley http://www.historiann.com/2013/03/03/jonah-lehrer-a-weird-old-trick-that-melts-belly-fat-and-makes-54-year-old-mom-look-27/comment-page-1/#comment-1370174 Tue, 05 Mar 2013 16:20:03 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20774#comment-1370174 What? Those fat ads don’t work?

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By: Profane http://www.historiann.com/2013/03/03/jonah-lehrer-a-weird-old-trick-that-melts-belly-fat-and-makes-54-year-old-mom-look-27/comment-page-1/#comment-1369658 Tue, 05 Mar 2013 07:31:00 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20774#comment-1369658 “This books borrows from some of these past publications but in ways that will often be unrecognizable. I have drawn my thoughts together here from into a new argument about the depoliticization of women’s and gender history, the loss of historical and depth in feminist scholarship, the critical perspectives afforded by a long view of the history of women and gender and the importance of studying what I call a “patriarchal equilibrium.” In this process of rethinking and revision, I have formulated some new ideas and text, and I have sometimes freely self-plagiarized from previously published articles.” – Judith Bennett

Seven years later, I will be teaching a senior seminar in the fall in which we will be spending two weeks on Bennett’s book. Is there any critical bibliography that I should hit that has arisen in the time (the last four years) since I last taught her book?

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2013/03/03/jonah-lehrer-a-weird-old-trick-that-melts-belly-fat-and-makes-54-year-old-mom-look-27/comment-page-1/#comment-1368854 Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:28:17 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20774#comment-1368854 HA! I am sure she meant discrete, not discreet! Although it is a truth universally acknowledged that discretion is a character trait much admired in novelists.

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