Comments on: In-NOGGER-ation Day http://www.historiann.com/2013/01/21/in-nogger-ation-day/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Sat, 20 Sep 2014 07:56:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2013/01/21/in-nogger-ation-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1294802 Wed, 23 Jan 2013 00:48:11 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20465#comment-1294802 Well, Linden, you might be sad, or you could look on the bright side and remember that your friend used the opportunity to learn something! I am sure that there were a number of Americans who missed one or both of those “S” sites listed by the President yesterday.

I choose to be pleased that the Prez mentioned these things at all, and that many more Americans (and others, perhaps) used the opportunity to learn a little more history.

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By: Linden http://www.historiann.com/2013/01/21/in-nogger-ation-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1294258 Tue, 22 Jan 2013 19:18:23 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20465#comment-1294258 One of my FB friends said he hadn’t known about this Seneca Falls thing until he heard it in the President’s speech and went and looked it up. How sad is that?

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2013/01/21/in-nogger-ation-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1293938 Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:09:03 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20465#comment-1293938 Thanks, quixote! That’s exactly how *I* pronounce it. It’s really only a little more work than in-NOGGER-ate.

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By: quixote http://www.historiann.com/2013/01/21/in-nogger-ation-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1292833 Tue, 22 Jan 2013 05:32:19 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20465#comment-1292833 I say if the way you say it makes you think of naugahyde, yur still doin it rong.

In-naug-you-ray-tion. But the “you” sound goes by faster than that would imply. It’s more of a brief link between “naug” and “ray.”

There. I’m sure you’re all relieved I’m here to clear up these little problems.

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By: truffula http://www.historiann.com/2013/01/21/in-nogger-ation-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1292622 Tue, 22 Jan 2013 03:52:47 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20465#comment-1292622 It was a good speech; it was about “a more perfect union” and about progress. We shall see, we shall see.

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By: Susan http://www.historiann.com/2013/01/21/in-nogger-ation-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1292384 Tue, 22 Jan 2013 01:26:51 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20465#comment-1292384 Oh, and is there a recipe for in-nogger-ation?

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By: Susan http://www.historiann.com/2013/01/21/in-nogger-ation-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1292381 Tue, 22 Jan 2013 01:26:08 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20465#comment-1292381 I’m a total sap for ceremonies (I always go to graduation, and usually cry there too), so like truffula, I got a bit misty eyed at moments today. Like H’Ann, I thought the speech good at connecting historical ideas to current progressive ones. And in addition to the “Seneca Falls, and Selma and Stonewall” line, I was struck by the mention of climate change.

I was also struck by the crowd, and all the parents and grandparents who wanted the children in their life to remember it. I thought about my mother, bringing her 3 children up to 125th St. and Park Ave in NYC to see JFK during the 1960 campaign. We can get cynical about civil religion, but I think the way the older generations try to tell their children about what matters is fascinating.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2013/01/21/in-nogger-ation-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1292190 Mon, 21 Jan 2013 23:25:01 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20465#comment-1292190 I listened to the speech on the radio, then dialed up a video of it, too. It was a good speech, not really memorable except for its explicit shout-outs to feminism, gay rights, and the Civil Rights movement, as well as immigration reform. He also talked about poverty and alluded to gun safety reform (i.e. he used the word “Newtown” and said that all American children deserve to know they are safe.)

I thought the speech, while broad and conciliatory in style, did a great job aligning the Founders & the course of American history in general with modern progressive goals in particular. So in the end, it wasn’t a Kum-Bye-Yah speech at all, no “there is no red America, no blue America, but only the United States of America” type speech. It very clearly said that American History is on the side of blue America’s values.

That said: Progressives, I hope you liked the speech! Use re-runs of it to keep you warm when he inevitably disappoints and compromises with the hostage-takers.

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By: truffula http://www.historiann.com/2013/01/21/in-nogger-ation-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1292025 Mon, 21 Jan 2013 21:28:12 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20465#comment-1292025 I watched the morning’s events on tee vee and got a little misty-eyed seeing the crowds on the National Mall and those lovely Obama women up on the stage, just as I did four years ago. Last time I was living overseas and had to get up in the wee hours to do this. Meanwhile, in the homes of my hoplophilic, melanophobic, exurban relatives, the TVs were silent for the first time in four years. I’m okay with my position on this one.

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By: koshembos http://www.historiann.com/2013/01/21/in-nogger-ation-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1291973 Mon, 21 Jan 2013 20:56:33 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=20465#comment-1291973 Living in the Capital, we left for a long hike fur enough not to be nogged. The only thing worth remembering on a cold day when empty promised lower air quality is: the next candidate that talks about hope and change and nothing else, run for your life.

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