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	<title>Comments on: Why the fictional death of an imaginary girl is a better story than the actual death of a real young woman</title>
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		<title>By: Life, death, and early America : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2013/01/18/why-the-fictional-death-of-an-imaginary-girl-is-a-better-story-than-the-actual-death-of-a-real-young-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-1325630</link>
		<dc:creator>Life, death, and early America : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 17:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] records are still viable and valuable in investigations like this.  I&#8217;m sure my students in Life and Death in Early America will want to talk about this when we meet for class this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] records are still viable and valuable in investigations like this.  I&#8217;m sure my students in Life and Death in Early America will want to talk about this when we meet for class this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cgeye</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2013/01/18/why-the-fictional-death-of-an-imaginary-girl-is-a-better-story-than-the-actual-death-of-a-real-young-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-1287611</link>
		<dc:creator>cgeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If any school maintained academic performance of athletes as a priority, there&#039;d be games scheduled around tests, and athletes excused to take them; athletes housed across campus, instead of in segregated housing (with the specialist tutoring and coddling implied, whether provided directly by the university or by the fraternal system); and, of course, students recruited primarily for their academic talents, with any participation in sports treated as a true extracurricular pursuit -- with no time taken away from studying to participate.

Of course, that&#039;s a dream world, especially when there&#039;s so much at stake involving prestige and income. And don&#039;t be deceived about the Ivy League cachet -- its administrators and athletics directors will take steps, including recruiting athletes with the same proportionate subpar academic qualifications as any Big X school, to not be mocked as competitively effeminate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If any school maintained academic performance of athletes as a priority, there&#8217;d be games scheduled around tests, and athletes excused to take them; athletes housed across campus, instead of in segregated housing (with the specialist tutoring and coddling implied, whether provided directly by the university or by the fraternal system); and, of course, students recruited primarily for their academic talents, with any participation in sports treated as a true extracurricular pursuit &#8212; with no time taken away from studying to participate.</p>
<p>Of course, that&#8217;s a dream world, especially when there&#8217;s so much at stake involving prestige and income. And don&#8217;t be deceived about the Ivy League cachet &#8212; its administrators and athletics directors will take steps, including recruiting athletes with the same proportionate subpar academic qualifications as any Big X school, to not be mocked as competitively effeminate.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2013/01/18/why-the-fictional-death-of-an-imaginary-girl-is-a-better-story-than-the-actual-death-of-a-real-young-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-1287272</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of the Disney Princess movies feature dead mothers as a critical pretext for the vulnerable girl children, and as you say, Anonymous, dead mothers are terrific for sitcom setups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the Disney Princess movies feature dead mothers as a critical pretext for the vulnerable girl children, and as you say, Anonymous, dead mothers are terrific for sitcom setups.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2013/01/18/why-the-fictional-death-of-an-imaginary-girl-is-a-better-story-than-the-actual-death-of-a-real-young-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-1286739</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 12:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fridging is not just in comic books.  Think how many sitcoms and movies there are in which mom is dead and the brave single dad is raising the kids.  So brave, and he gets to date!  

Maybe this will be enough to get the fawning article about the ND football program off the top of the Chronicle blogs page.  My stomach turns every time I see the ND president&#039;s big smirky smile.  Ew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fridging is not just in comic books.  Think how many sitcoms and movies there are in which mom is dead and the brave single dad is raising the kids.  So brave, and he gets to date!  </p>
<p>Maybe this will be enough to get the fawning article about the ND football program off the top of the Chronicle blogs page.  My stomach turns every time I see the ND president&#8217;s big smirky smile.  Ew.</p>
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		<title>By: tony grafton</title>
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		<dc:creator>tony grafton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 12:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in the day, when a student got in real trouble, I would contact one of the college deans. They had seen everything, tirelessly worked all the hours there are and were there for the students--ready to take a risk when it was merited, though also to decide that someone absolutely needed to take time off or leave entirely, and always, always willing to take responsibility for their decisions. 

Happily, none of my students has been in serious trouble for a surprisingly long time. I hope when trouble comes again, one of those wonderful deans is still around . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the day, when a student got in real trouble, I would contact one of the college deans. They had seen everything, tirelessly worked all the hours there are and were there for the students&#8211;ready to take a risk when it was merited, though also to decide that someone absolutely needed to take time off or leave entirely, and always, always willing to take responsibility for their decisions. </p>
<p>Happily, none of my students has been in serious trouble for a surprisingly long time. I hope when trouble comes again, one of those wonderful deans is still around . . .</p>
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		<title>By: kimbrulee</title>
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		<dc:creator>kimbrulee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 12:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post, Historiann! I was just thinking about how reprehensible it is that the fake dead girlfriend story is what has caused fans to realize that ND football is morally bankrupt..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post, Historiann! I was just thinking about how reprehensible it is that the fake dead girlfriend story is what has caused fans to realize that ND football is morally bankrupt..</p>
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		<title>By: truffula</title>
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		<dc:creator>truffula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 05:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;she might have chosen not to let her attacker define her&lt;/I&gt;

In my experience, even if you choose not to let it define you, it defines you (in the way I take Historiann to mean this, to become an activist about the particular injustice). I think I would in any case be exactly who I am and have supported younger women in exactly the ways I have but I also see how my own college experiences are a part of reacting the way I do, saying what I say, and so on.  This may be a sort of choosing too, though, a kind that lets you lift the burden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>she might have chosen not to let her attacker define her</i></p>
<p>In my experience, even if you choose not to let it define you, it defines you (in the way I take Historiann to mean this, to become an activist about the particular injustice). I think I would in any case be exactly who I am and have supported younger women in exactly the ways I have but I also see how my own college experiences are a part of reacting the way I do, saying what I say, and so on.  This may be a sort of choosing too, though, a kind that lets you lift the burden.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2013/01/18/why-the-fictional-death-of-an-imaginary-girl-is-a-better-story-than-the-actual-death-of-a-real-young-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-1285669</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 01:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Janice, you are so right--I hadn&#039;t thought about all of those sermons eulogizing dead women of matchless virtue!  And they can never talk back or contradict anyone anymore.

Tony&#039;s point about virtuous administrators is a good one.  My guess is that they&#039;ve retired, and they&#039;ve been replaced by a new generation who respond to the incentives of the neoliberal university:  it&#039;s all a potential profit center, so whomever sells the most &quot;product&quot; while keeping their production (i.e. labor) costs low will be rewarded.  We hear very rarely about the public interest, or about what&#039;s good for the university as a whole.  I also think that administrators are rewarded more for implementing new programs that sound good, but they rarely stick around to see if they actually improve retention, or time-to-degree, or student learning, or whatever they&#039;re trying to improve.  In fact, sticking around would only mean being accountable for your decisions, so that&#039;s another reason to flee.

I was thinking about this the other day after getting the fiftieth e-mail this year asking me to nominate someone for Whatever-of-the-Year, which I guarantee you were each the brainchildren of administrators.  These awards schemes, which just make more work for faculty who have to write these nominations and then have to sit on committees and judge them, are our substitutes now for merit increases or actual funding for our research.  Because a few of us get rewarded occasionally (and a lunch, and maybe a sticker!) they don&#039;t have to pay us, provide decent benefits, or think about the long-term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Janice, you are so right&#8211;I hadn&#8217;t thought about all of those sermons eulogizing dead women of matchless virtue!  And they can never talk back or contradict anyone anymore.</p>
<p>Tony&#8217;s point about virtuous administrators is a good one.  My guess is that they&#8217;ve retired, and they&#8217;ve been replaced by a new generation who respond to the incentives of the neoliberal university:  it&#8217;s all a potential profit center, so whomever sells the most &#8220;product&#8221; while keeping their production (i.e. labor) costs low will be rewarded.  We hear very rarely about the public interest, or about what&#8217;s good for the university as a whole.  I also think that administrators are rewarded more for implementing new programs that sound good, but they rarely stick around to see if they actually improve retention, or time-to-degree, or student learning, or whatever they&#8217;re trying to improve.  In fact, sticking around would only mean being accountable for your decisions, so that&#8217;s another reason to flee.</p>
<p>I was thinking about this the other day after getting the fiftieth e-mail this year asking me to nominate someone for Whatever-of-the-Year, which I guarantee you were each the brainchildren of administrators.  These awards schemes, which just make more work for faculty who have to write these nominations and then have to sit on committees and judge them, are our substitutes now for merit increases or actual funding for our research.  Because a few of us get rewarded occasionally (and a lunch, and maybe a sticker!) they don&#8217;t have to pay us, provide decent benefits, or think about the long-term.</p>
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		<title>By: Janice</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2013/01/18/why-the-fictional-death-of-an-imaginary-girl-is-a-better-story-than-the-actual-death-of-a-real-young-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-1285585</link>
		<dc:creator>Janice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing better than a dead woman (who makes for great sermon fodder!) is a fictional dead woman. Look at how well that&#039;s worked for the comic book universes as well: (i.e. &#039;fridging&#039;) http://www.comicvine.com/women-in-refrigerators/12-43763/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing better than a dead woman (who makes for great sermon fodder!) is a fictional dead woman. Look at how well that&#8217;s worked for the comic book universes as well: (i.e. &#8216;fridging&#8217;) <a href="http://www.comicvine.com/women-in-refrigerators/12-43763/" rel="nofollow">http://www.comicvine.com/women-in-refrigerators/12-43763/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tony Grafton</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2013/01/18/why-the-fictional-death-of-an-imaginary-girl-is-a-better-story-than-the-actual-death-of-a-real-young-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-1285527</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Grafton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Contingent Cassandra. The world is upside down. Where did the human administrators go? There used to be many of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Contingent Cassandra. The world is upside down. Where did the human administrators go? There used to be many of them.</p>
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