Comments on: He “like[s] to fire people,” or, the beatings will continue until morale improves. http://www.historiann.com/2012/11/09/he-likes-to-fire-people-or-the-beatings-will-continue-until-morale-improves/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:47:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: Rad Readr http://www.historiann.com/2012/11/09/he-likes-to-fire-people-or-the-beatings-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-1148715 Sun, 11 Nov 2012 05:13:00 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19892#comment-1148715 That dude is building a nest egg for donations to Republican Super PACs in the next election. I am amazed by people who scream and scheme to lower their tax rates are so generous when it comes to sending money to Karl Rove and Co.

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By: truffula http://www.historiann.com/2012/11/09/he-likes-to-fire-people-or-the-beatings-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-1148252 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:20:29 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19892#comment-1148252 During a recent audience with the President of Provincial State U., the rank and file were told that we work not for coin but for love of the institution. One wonders when he will prove his love is as deep and true as ours.

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By: Indyanna http://www.historiann.com/2012/11/09/he-likes-to-fire-people-or-the-beatings-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-1148231 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:59:16 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19892#comment-1148231 Like Historiann and probably many others out there, I’m also a job creator, a strategic innovation distuptor, and a capitalist transformational creative-destructionator for good measure. I just can’t stand it when the widows and the orphans cry, so I’ve had to get creative while buckling down to withstand the economic storm from the socialist turn that the electorate seems to have taken this week. So I decided to become a “stragetic cancellator” and thereby be insulated from the emotional havoc wrought upon the hapless “hands” far down the supply chain. How? I went to my book-of-business, wired Boeing, and cancelled an order for three Dreamliners (sm) scheduled to be delivered in early 2014. That not only puts buckets of change in your pocket so you can pick up a check here and there, but I never need know who the “likes to fire people” guy is in Seattle where the termination notices will soon go out.

The only problem is, my book of business is now flat empty, with not a single Dreamliner ™ left to cancel if I wake up hungry again on Monday. So I got to thinking what else could I cancel? And it hit me: three sections of History 258, scheduled for delivery in a little more than two months! The dean isn’t going to like this lean-and-mean “I have kids to feed too” talk, of course, and might even say “No!!” But I fall back on a helpful magnate’s aphorism I learned first semester in graduate school from no less of a job creator than Andrew Carnegie. (No, he didn’t take three months off to teach a seminar at Wharton, this was from a BOOK!). But what he “said” was: “….boss your boss. Try it on early.” He actually said that, you could Wikipedia it. Once you do that you might even need to fire your boss, or get to like having to fire bosses.

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By: Matt_L http://www.historiann.com/2012/11/09/he-likes-to-fire-people-or-the-beatings-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-1148211 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:27:52 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19892#comment-1148211 Job creators are not even job creators. It is as if they haven’t read their Adam Smith:

“He generally, indeed neither intends to promotes the publick interest, nor knows how much he is promoting it. [...] and by directing that industry in such a manner as its produce may be of the greatest value, he intends only his own gain, and he is in this, as in many other cases, led by an invisible hand to promote an end which was no part of his intention.”

Jobs are created when there are demands for goods and services. They do not depend on the whim or intention of an employer. Jobs are the unintended consequence of that employer seeking their own gain. If the employer does not understand this, they will be out of business very soon. I can see how the Masters of the Universe my embrace this perspective, since all the do is shove around 1′s and 0′s over a broadband connection, but I am flabbergasted that anyone with an actual business could believe the ‘job creator’ clap trap.

The fact that this person, real or fabricated, considers it necessary to fire people before any actual new expenses or taxes have actually materialized suggests that they understand very little about the larger economy or their own business. I suspect its make believe carping by another wannabe “Joe-the-Plumber”

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2012/11/09/he-likes-to-fire-people-or-the-beatings-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-1148198 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:05:30 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19892#comment-1148198 I don’t think the NRO poster invented the story. This was actually a call broadcast at a Las Vegas radio station. But because the caller was anonymous and didn’t name the business in question, I think there is good reason to be suspicious of this “just so” story.

IOW, the NRO poster was eager to find evidence that an Obama victory would = unemployment for his voters, and seized on this story without any verification or reporting. So, she is lazy but not necessarily dishonest.

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By: truffula http://www.historiann.com/2012/11/09/he-likes-to-fire-people-or-the-beatings-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-1148142 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:04:15 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19892#comment-1148142 Isn’t the simplest interpretation that the NRO poster fabricated the story?

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By: friend http://www.historiann.com/2012/11/09/he-likes-to-fire-people-or-the-beatings-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-1148076 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:56:56 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19892#comment-1148076 Amen!

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By: Susan http://www.historiann.com/2012/11/09/he-likes-to-fire-people-or-the-beatings-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-1147905 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:37:24 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19892#comment-1147905 Oh Noes! Bad Obama!
What’s astonishing (other than the totally vacuous argument which Contingent Cassandra properly eviscerates), which no longer surprises me) is that this person somehow participated in the Romney bubble in which it was impossible for Obama to win, because, you know, Romney LOOKS presidential (i.e. white, male, greying…)

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By: koshembos http://www.historiann.com/2012/11/09/he-likes-to-fire-people-or-the-beatings-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-1147521 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 04:32:43 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19892#comment-1147521 Pressure and threats have worked well for the rich. Obama actually gave the them everything they want, but he couldn’t supply them with their dark wishes; they were not explicit about them. Romney is one of them. He doesn’t have to be told. They want him and not a guy who can take a hint.

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By: Contingent Cassandra http://www.historiann.com/2012/11/09/he-likes-to-fire-people-or-the-beatings-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-1147415 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 02:49:44 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19892#comment-1147415 It would also seem that the author had 22 more people than (s)he needed to do the work coming in (perhaps true if it’s a seasonal business, but then the election is irrelevant), or intends to turn down work (which would be detrimental to building the nest egg (s)he mentions), or . . . well, I’m not quite sure, since I’ve never been a “job creator,” but I still think that my general impression that one needs employees to do work to bring in revenue, and that cutting employees is likely to also decrease revenue, isn’t too far off. And if there’s a way to bring in just as much revenue (and/or more revenue per employee) with 22 fewer employees, shouldn’t (s)he. as a good capitalist, have implemented it whenever (s)he discovered it, rather than waiting ’til now?

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