Comments on: The downside of being a Nobel laureate? The dance is mostly a stag affair. http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/15/the-downside-of-being-a-nobel-laureate/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Sun, 19 May 2013 08:28:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4 By: Indyanna http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/15/the-downside-of-being-a-nobel-laureate/comment-page-1/#comment-1117668 Indyanna Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:06:25 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19720#comment-1117668 Roosevelt and Wilson won it for being (or rather for intending to be in the future) presidents of the AHA! Roosevelt and Wilson won it for being (or rather for intending to be in the future) presidents of the AHA!

]]> By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/15/the-downside-of-being-a-nobel-laureate/comment-page-1/#comment-1117449 Historiann Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:01:17 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19720#comment-1117449 <i>Mr. Obama was given the prize for being black.</i> Srsly? No. He was awarded the prize for succeeding George W. Bush. But you're right that when pols are given the award, it's usually a decision that in retrospect looks really foolish. Also, Ronald Reagan never won the prize. Jimmy Carter is the only other U.S. Prez to have won besides Obama recently. However, Theodore Roosevelt (1906) and Woodrow Wilson (1919) were winners too early in the 20th century. <a href="http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Full list of Nobel Peace Prize winners here</a>. Z: funny story about the parking! I *bet* that was a major perk. Mr. Obama was given the prize for being black.

Srsly? No. He was awarded the prize for succeeding George W. Bush. But you’re right that when pols are given the award, it’s usually a decision that in retrospect looks really foolish. Also, Ronald Reagan never won the prize. Jimmy Carter is the only other U.S. Prez to have won besides Obama recently. However, Theodore Roosevelt (1906) and Woodrow Wilson (1919) were winners too early in the 20th century.

Full list of Nobel Peace Prize winners here.

Z: funny story about the parking! I *bet* that was a major perk.

]]> By: Dan Van Riper http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/15/the-downside-of-being-a-nobel-laureate/comment-page-1/#comment-1117416 Dan Van Riper Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:22:01 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19720#comment-1117416 Let's see... The EU was given the Peace Prize for imposing Disaster Capitalism on southern European economies. Mr. Obama was given the prize for being black. Ronnie Reagan got it after he was forced by public opinion to wake up from his dementia long enough to approve negotiations for a toothless nuclear reduction treaty between the US and a nation about to collapse. Henry Kissinger got it for negotiating an end to the War Against Vietnam, when in actuality he sabotaged the peace talks and prolonged the war. I guess you can say I have very little respect for the decisions of the Nobel Committee. Let’s see… The EU was given the Peace Prize for imposing Disaster Capitalism on southern European economies. Mr. Obama was given the prize for being black. Ronnie Reagan got it after he was forced by public opinion to wake up from his dementia long enough to approve negotiations for a toothless nuclear reduction treaty between the US and a nation about to collapse. Henry Kissinger got it for negotiating an end to the War Against Vietnam, when in actuality he sabotaged the peace talks and prolonged the war. I guess you can say I have very little respect for the decisions of the Nobel Committee.

]]> By: Z http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/15/the-downside-of-being-a-nobel-laureate/comment-page-1/#comment-1117084 Z Wed, 17 Oct 2012 03:22:27 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19720#comment-1117084 Where I studied they had a lot of Nobel laureates and they gave them good parking places. This at a university where parking was very difficult. One of them was emeritus and had his 100th birthday, and was interviewed about his life. They asked what difference the Nobel prize had made and he said the parking place was fantastic since he had gotten so old! Where I studied they had a lot of Nobel laureates and they gave them good parking places. This at a university where parking was very difficult. One of them was emeritus and had his 100th birthday, and was interviewed about his life. They asked what difference the Nobel prize had made and he said the parking place was fantastic since he had gotten so old!

]]> By: J. Otto Pohl http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/15/the-downside-of-being-a-nobel-laureate/comment-page-1/#comment-1116841 J. Otto Pohl Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:40:14 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19720#comment-1116841 Well I have been a long time advocate of Rebiya Kadeer for the Nobel Peace Prize for her human rights work in East Turkestan. Of course since she is a Muslim I don't see her getting much American support, but oh well. Well I have been a long time advocate of Rebiya Kadeer for the Nobel Peace Prize for her human rights work in East Turkestan. Of course since she is a Muslim I don’t see her getting much American support, but oh well.

]]> By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/15/the-downside-of-being-a-nobel-laureate/comment-page-1/#comment-1116558 Historiann Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:23:36 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19720#comment-1116558 HA-ha. Excellent tumblr feed. HA-ha. Excellent tumblr feed.

]]> By: friend http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/15/the-downside-of-being-a-nobel-laureate/comment-page-1/#comment-1116526 friend Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:49:05 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19720#comment-1116526 Perhaps brilliant women in science meet with this kind of thing: http://mansplained.tumblr.com/ Perhaps brilliant women in science meet with this kind of thing: http://mansplained.tumblr.com/

]]> By: Susan http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/15/the-downside-of-being-a-nobel-laureate/comment-page-1/#comment-1116488 Susan Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:15:01 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19720#comment-1116488 More or less what Truffula said. Over the years I've met two Nobel laureates, and both were modest, unassuming people: they seemed to be scholars who cared about their research, not arrogant or self-promoting. So maybe the problem is the outsize importance we give to prizes? I would love to hire someone who had won the Nobel peace prize, so if we have a job, it's for FA. More or less what Truffula said.

Over the years I’ve met two Nobel laureates, and both were modest, unassuming people: they seemed to be scholars who cared about their research, not arrogant or self-promoting. So maybe the problem is the outsize importance we give to prizes?

I would love to hire someone who had won the Nobel peace prize, so if we have a job, it’s for FA.

]]> By: Western Dave http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/15/the-downside-of-being-a-nobel-laureate/comment-page-1/#comment-1116473 Western Dave Tue, 16 Oct 2012 13:49:42 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19720#comment-1116473 "More Brooklyn born scientists got the award than people born in France. That’s not a preference for bagels and lax over crepes." Hm, I think you are confusing Brooklyn with the North Shore of Long Island. Although last time I checked, while Manhasset's boys and girls lacrosse teams were both nationally ranked, Great Neck's (North or South) weren't. Of course, Great Neck did have the cheating scandal (and before anybody gets riled up, I went to school in Manhasset and synagogue in Great Neck - bagels and lax were what I grew up with - and no, I don't have a Nobel of any kind). “More Brooklyn born scientists got the award than people born in France. That’s not a preference for bagels and lax over crepes.” Hm, I think you are confusing Brooklyn with the North Shore of Long Island. Although last time I checked, while Manhasset’s boys and girls lacrosse teams were both nationally ranked, Great Neck’s (North or South) weren’t. Of course, Great Neck did have the cheating scandal (and before anybody gets riled up, I went to school in Manhasset and synagogue in Great Neck – bagels and lax were what I grew up with – and no, I don’t have a Nobel of any kind).

]]> By: smalltown prof http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/15/the-downside-of-being-a-nobel-laureate/comment-page-1/#comment-1116435 smalltown prof Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:57:50 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19720#comment-1116435 The US has an advantage over other nations because the gummint gives major $$ to the universities and to the sciences!! Just don't tell the Tea Party folks. The US has an advantage over other nations because the gummint gives major $$ to the universities and to the sciences!! Just don’t tell the Tea Party folks.

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