Comments on: Arne Duncan: quite possibly the dopiest Secretary of Education we’ve ever seen http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/03/arne-duncan-quite-possibly-the-dopiest-secretary-of-education-weve-ever-seen/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Sun, 21 Sep 2014 00:30:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: Indyanna http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/03/arne-duncan-quite-possibly-the-dopiest-secretary-of-education-weve-ever-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-1115571 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 21:25:12 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19675#comment-1115571 Sheet music?!? So they finally invented “paper?!?” In our ancient tribe, someone (in perpetual turn) was assigned to be singing each of about ten very long songs on an around-the-clock basis, so none of the notes or words would ever depart from the collective memory. It *did* get a little tedious at times, until the overnight “singing watch-masters” agreed to move far enough beyond the cave and campfire periphery so as not to disturb our sleep. Also, some of the youngsters did complain that we were “stifling innovation” with our neurotic fixation on what they called “an obsolete culture of perpetual performance.”

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By: GlassPen http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/03/arne-duncan-quite-possibly-the-dopiest-secretary-of-education-weve-ever-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-1111658 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:36:09 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19675#comment-1111658 I’d pay good money to hear that…

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/03/arne-duncan-quite-possibly-the-dopiest-secretary-of-education-weve-ever-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-1110753 Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:37:10 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19675#comment-1110753 What is this wax cylinder of which you speak? What is an 8-track tape?

We get our music as sheet music, and stand around the piano and sing.

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By: GlassPen http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/03/arne-duncan-quite-possibly-the-dopiest-secretary-of-education-weve-ever-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-1110678 Wed, 10 Oct 2012 21:22:33 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19675#comment-1110678 We’re just at the beginning of this technology shift.
–price of e-readers will continue to fall, to the point of “free”…as is already beginning to happen in the phone and tablet markets.
–e-books can be preloaded onto devices, so ongoing access to internet isn’t necessary.
–one preloaded e-reader will be a lot easier to carry than a backpack full of textbooks.
–e-readers are arguably more ecologically sustainable. China was an early backer of e-ink because they knew they didn’t have enough trees to make enough paper to print enough codex for their educational needs.
–example of small, light e-reader…runs on 2 AAA batteries for a year: http://us.txtr.com/beagle/

Innovation anticipates high technology turnover and moderate failure rates…so what? How are you getting your music these days: wax cylinders? LPs? 8-track tapes?

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By: Liz2 http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/03/arne-duncan-quite-possibly-the-dopiest-secretary-of-education-weve-ever-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-1108611 Tue, 09 Oct 2012 03:44:41 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19675#comment-1108611 I can think of so many times when electronic textbooks would not work. Up north they call them snow days (you know the kind where the power goes out) down south we call them hurricane weeks, when school is out for a week cause no one has power but the kids still have to try to keep up outside of school. And I can say that in the last four months our house has lost power 3 times (not including the week for a hurricane). And we manage to pay our electric bill, what about the folks who can’t? I regularly see problems with over reliance on electricity in our society.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/03/arne-duncan-quite-possibly-the-dopiest-secretary-of-education-weve-ever-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-1108345 Mon, 08 Oct 2012 22:59:38 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19675#comment-1108345 Oh, barf. Who are these creeps?

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By: Contingent Cassandra http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/03/arne-duncan-quite-possibly-the-dopiest-secretary-of-education-weve-ever-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-1108344 Mon, 08 Oct 2012 22:58:09 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19675#comment-1108344 Duncan went to Harvard on a hoops scholarship. His mommy and daddy were proffies at UC, so I guess everyone assumes that their expertise qualifies him, somehow, for every job he’s had outside of his bball work.

That explains a lot. There is one group that’s really excited that he’s Secretary of Ed: Harvard classmates who run for-profit universities (and genuinely seem to think they’re providing a public service: “access” to education for the underserved). So that makes two people (that I know of).

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By: It’s the lack of shared governance, stupid. « More or Less Bunk http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/03/arne-duncan-quite-possibly-the-dopiest-secretary-of-education-weve-ever-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-1107908 Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:58:47 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19675#comment-1107908 [...] Sally Field: They hate us. They really hate us. Whether it’s the Secretary of Education calling for all digital textbooks or universities not consulting with faculty before joining the MOOC bandwagon, the lack of respect [...]

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By: VB http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/03/arne-duncan-quite-possibly-the-dopiest-secretary-of-education-weve-ever-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-1106034 Sat, 06 Oct 2012 16:55:55 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19675#comment-1106034 Two things most people don’t talk about:

(1) the corporate interests driving these techno-utopian ideas (think of the profits to be made selling computers, tablets, e-books, cable bandwidth, etc.). Think of all the jobs! The growth! One can see the dollar signs going ka-ching in their eyeballs.

(2) The tremendous waste of power from all these electronic devices having to be on all the time, not to mention the tremendous power it takes to keep the dataservers/clouds/whatever running 24/7. The NYT and various other outlets have recently begun writing about this (with predictably defensive responses from industry).

I find it depressingly ironic that the proponents of these technologies keep talking about their efficiency, and the comparative inefficiencies of mere humans –yet there is no technology for conveying ideas that has ever been more “efficient” than a book. It uses no power after its initial creation, can be reused almost endlessly (with care), one can hold onto one page while checking back and forth in other parts of the text; there is no “digital eye fatigue” (a new problem confronting techies and their ophthalmologists), etc., etc. The problem seems to be that most of the business people pushing these newer technologies so hard actually don’t read that much. If all they’re exposed to is light summer novels, no wonder they don’t see the big deal in shrinking libraries, making all texts on-line, etc.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2012/10/03/arne-duncan-quite-possibly-the-dopiest-secretary-of-education-weve-ever-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-1105013 Fri, 05 Oct 2012 15:24:50 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19675#comment-1105013 Duncan went to Harvard on a hoops scholarship. His mommy and daddy were proffies at UC, so I guess everyone assumes that their expertise qualifies him, somehow, for every job he’s had outside of his bball work.

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