Comments on: La Loca contemplates bespoke suits and online education. Historiann contemplates the profit motive at her allegedly non-profit employer. http://www.historiann.com/2012/09/13/la-loca-contemplates-bespoke-suits-and-online-education-historiann-contemplates-the-profit-motive-at-her-allegedly-non-profit-employer/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:47:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: live casino http://www.historiann.com/2012/09/13/la-loca-contemplates-bespoke-suits-and-online-education-historiann-contemplates-the-profit-motive-at-her-allegedly-non-profit-employer/comment-page-1/#comment-1177350 Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:57:26 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19530#comment-1177350 Spot on with this write-up, I seriously feel this website needs a great deal more attention.
I’ll probably be returning to see more, thanks for the information!

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By: Canuck Down South http://www.historiann.com/2012/09/13/la-loca-contemplates-bespoke-suits-and-online-education-historiann-contemplates-the-profit-motive-at-her-allegedly-non-profit-employer/comment-page-1/#comment-1090025 Sat, 15 Sep 2012 03:21:57 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19530#comment-1090025 @Janice: consider looking west or east when your daughter goes to university, or at least get her out of the Ontario sinkhole. I compared notes with a bunch of Canadian friends recently, all of whom had attended/TAed at universities in more than one region of Canada: in the west, particularly BC and Alberta, second year and above liberal arts courses, which in Ontario usually have 100+ students, are normally capped at 30-42 (there actually still being lots of money sloshing around Western Canada). In the east, all the small (by Canadian standards) universities–Dalhousie, Acadia, St. FX–are madly competing to become Canada’s answer to American-style liberal arts colleges (for 6-8 thousand, only a little above normal). Southern Ontario (by which I mean U of T) may still be pulling in a lot of research dollars, but as far as teaching goes, even places like Queen’s are falling off the map.

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By: Contingent Cassandra http://www.historiann.com/2012/09/13/la-loca-contemplates-bespoke-suits-and-online-education-historiann-contemplates-the-profit-motive-at-her-allegedly-non-profit-employer/comment-page-1/#comment-1089791 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:11:49 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19530#comment-1089791 Theoretically, one of the reasons faculty in my school/program are being pushed to go online at least part of the time is the reason MsMcD mentioned: lack of classroom space (especially lack of the one-computer-per-student classrooms that really do make sense, and work well, for writing classes). Since I’m currently free to offer tailored/handcrafted/artisanal courses (at only the cost of exhausting myself a bit more than a 4/4 load already does), I’m willing. But there seems to be an increasing push toward standardization in online classes (all in the name of quality, of course; who knows what professors will do if you don’t keep a close eye on them?) And much of the infrastructure (e.g. course designers) seems predicated on the assumption that we’ll be uploading coursepacks from publishers. So I have to wonder: though classroom space is certainly a problem (as are parking and traffic in the whole metro area from which we pull), is there another underlying/overarching agenda? Thank goodness for the internet, which allows us compare notes. We may be luddites*, but at least we’re informed, connected, ones.

*I think this label is one we’re going to be hearing more and more, and will have to be careful to combat, since it probably describes a space where the ongoing MOOC story and this week’s CSU English ad kerfuffle meet: one way to dismiss older/experienced faculty who express doubts about online education (and are generally mouthy and opinionated and inclined to claim that they should be the ones to set quality standards for their own students/curricula) is to claim that they’re/we’re just uncomfortable with new technology, while all the shiny new Ph.D.s whom the online educrats would like to make into glorified T.A.s (at best) are comfortable with it, and know how to make it work. The “it can be done well, but it’s not cheap, it’s not scalable, and it doesn’t look like a MOOC” argument that MsMcD makes (and that I’ve made elsewhere/other times) might be the middle road. Or so I hope. It’s also possible that standing in the middle of the road increases the chances of getting run over.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2012/09/13/la-loca-contemplates-bespoke-suits-and-online-education-historiann-contemplates-the-profit-motive-at-her-allegedly-non-profit-employer/comment-page-1/#comment-1089746 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 18:10:41 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19530#comment-1089746 A-HAHAHAHAHAhahahahaha! Of course!

I’m sure that We Take Your Course will be a highly lucrative venture. Since universities like mine are looking for ways to “increase revenue,” they should set up their own course-taking services to sell to the nominal “students” who sign up for our online classes!

Awesome!!!

Like I’ve said before: it’s the old “feed the rats to the cats and the rats to the cats, and get the skins for free!” scheme.

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By: friend http://www.historiann.com/2012/09/13/la-loca-contemplates-bespoke-suits-and-online-education-historiann-contemplates-the-profit-motive-at-her-allegedly-non-profit-employer/comment-page-1/#comment-1089733 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 18:00:17 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19530#comment-1089733 How about the model of this organization: Life is too short to spend on classes you have no interest in: http://www.wetakeyourclass.com/

Res Ipsa Loquitur

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By: Indyanna http://www.historiann.com/2012/09/13/la-loca-contemplates-bespoke-suits-and-online-education-historiann-contemplates-the-profit-motive-at-her-allegedly-non-profit-employer/comment-page-1/#comment-1089657 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:23:40 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19530#comment-1089657 There’s even a possible climate change angle in urging students to be locavores of knowledge in showing (or even just claiming) that the 100 acre server farms needed to maintain MOOCs are spewing forth more carbon than they are saving in the physical mileage covered by student commuters they would reduce. Or wage class warfare on the “job destroyers” at Coursera Capital Management because as online rises, there goes physical plant management, housekeeping, purchasing, brick and mortar vending empires, cafeteria, the works. Rile up Main Street, invoke the inevitable death of the Southeastern Conference, the agonizing withering away of Bracket Sunday, the content starvation of College Humor. Leave it to the computer science geeks in Palo Alto to unravel the possible logical or empirical flaws in these nightmare scenarios. That should buy a year or two anyway for more coherent strategies to emerge. :)

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By: tony grafton http://www.historiann.com/2012/09/13/la-loca-contemplates-bespoke-suits-and-online-education-historiann-contemplates-the-profit-motive-at-her-allegedly-non-profit-employer/comment-page-1/#comment-1089605 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 12:49:36 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19530#comment-1089605 Or could we affiliate with the Slow Food movement?

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By: Lemmings. « More or Less Bunk http://www.historiann.com/2012/09/13/la-loca-contemplates-bespoke-suits-and-online-education-historiann-contemplates-the-profit-motive-at-her-allegedly-non-profit-employer/comment-page-1/#comment-1089584 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 12:03:52 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19530#comment-1089584 [...] universities like mine offer that MOOCs can’t? That’s where the Dr. Crazy post that Historiann highlighted yesterday is so useful. Her premise is the similarity between a good college education and a $4,000 suit. The [...]

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By: Notorious Ph.D. http://www.historiann.com/2012/09/13/la-loca-contemplates-bespoke-suits-and-online-education-historiann-contemplates-the-profit-motive-at-her-allegedly-non-profit-employer/comment-page-1/#comment-1089402 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 05:33:21 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19530#comment-1089402 Maybe we just need to market ourselves differently: Handcrafted education, brewed in small batches by a master scholar…”

If it works for beer, why not for us?

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By: Jessica Weiss http://www.historiann.com/2012/09/13/la-loca-contemplates-bespoke-suits-and-online-education-historiann-contemplates-the-profit-motive-at-her-allegedly-non-profit-employer/comment-page-1/#comment-1089395 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 05:21:50 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19530#comment-1089395 MsMcD…Your class size is not the rule in online education. Koshembos, do you get pushback for the teamwork approach?

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