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	<title>Comments on: Women&#8217;s and gender history has menstrual blood smeared all over it.  If you read this post, you too will be contaminated.</title>
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		<title>By: Woodrow Wilson Doctoral Dissertation Fellowship in Women&#8217;s Studies: an update : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woodrow Wilson Doctoral Dissertation Fellowship in Women&#8217;s Studies: an update : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 19:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] After hearing that this fellowship had been suspended and signing a petition to protest this decisio..., I received this e-mail yesterday from Susan E. Billmaier, a Program Officer for the Woodrow Wilson National Fellowship Foundation: Thank you for your concern regarding the Woodrow Wilson Doctoral Dissertation Fellowship in Women’s Studies. The following note was sent to friends of the Woodrow Wilson Women&#8217;s Studies Fellowship.  As the letter explains, the grants for the 2012-2013 year have been suspended, but the Foundation remains well aware of the importance of this award.  In the coming year, a careful review will ensure its continued strength going forward.  We thank you for your interest and hope you will remain a supporter of the Fellowship in the future. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] After hearing that this fellowship had been suspended and signing a petition to protest this decisio&#8230;, I received this e-mail yesterday from Susan E. Billmaier, a Program Officer for the Woodrow Wilson National Fellowship Foundation: Thank you for your concern regarding the Woodrow Wilson Doctoral Dissertation Fellowship in Women’s Studies. The following note was sent to friends of the Woodrow Wilson Women&#8217;s Studies Fellowship.  As the letter explains, the grants for the 2012-2013 year have been suspended, but the Foundation remains well aware of the importance of this award.  In the coming year, a careful review will ensure its continued strength going forward.  We thank you for your interest and hope you will remain a supporter of the Fellowship in the future. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Too many d00dly nutsacks: I want out. : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present</title>
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		<dc:creator>Too many d00dly nutsacks: I want out. : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 17:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bear a pure &#8220;fluff&#8221; post with a pretty young woman instead of a smelly ballsack or a contaminating application of menstrual blood, here&#8217;s some food for thought.  Via reader and commenter Susan, Adam F. Falk, President of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Shelley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 15:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The stronger the corporations get, the more they will be happy to let women&#039;s, ethnic, and labor history recede into the memory hole.

Citizens United must not stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stronger the corporations get, the more they will be happy to let women&#8217;s, ethnic, and labor history recede into the memory hole.</p>
<p>Citizens United must not stand.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 14:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;regardless, there are female American Indian graduate students and professors doing amazing work in this field, who you could have found by doing a Google search and consulted before making sweeping generalizations about a broad swath of the country with cultural practices that vary significantly from nation to nation. Perhaps their studies might have uncovered some of the answers to the questions you ask in your post.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Right on.  That&#039;s who I&#039;m using and citing in MY research.  But this post doesn&#039;t claim that this work isn&#039;t being done or doesn&#039;t exist.  It claims that this research isn&#039;t being recognized, rewarded, or cited the way that big studies of &quot;empire&quot; or &quot;the early American West&quot; are.  

BTW, I didn&#039;t make the claim that Natives on the great plains and great basin engaged in menstrual seclusion.  That comes out of my research on the Wabanaki, whose gender segregation traditions are very well documented.  I&#039;ve also read studies that suggest that menstrual seclusion was practiced by the Cherokee, and may still be in some Cherokee communities.  I just thought that the practice of menstrual seclusion by some historical Native communities was too perfect a metaphor to pass up.  But I can see your point that it may have suggested a universal practice that was in fact local and situational.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;regardless, there are female American Indian graduate students and professors doing amazing work in this field, who you could have found by doing a Google search and consulted before making sweeping generalizations about a broad swath of the country with cultural practices that vary significantly from nation to nation. Perhaps their studies might have uncovered some of the answers to the questions you ask in your post.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Right on.  That&#8217;s who I&#8217;m using and citing in MY research.  But this post doesn&#8217;t claim that this work isn&#8217;t being done or doesn&#8217;t exist.  It claims that this research isn&#8217;t being recognized, rewarded, or cited the way that big studies of &#8220;empire&#8221; or &#8220;the early American West&#8221; are.  </p>
<p>BTW, I didn&#8217;t make the claim that Natives on the great plains and great basin engaged in menstrual seclusion.  That comes out of my research on the Wabanaki, whose gender segregation traditions are very well documented.  I&#8217;ve also read studies that suggest that menstrual seclusion was practiced by the Cherokee, and may still be in some Cherokee communities.  I just thought that the practice of menstrual seclusion by some historical Native communities was too perfect a metaphor to pass up.  But I can see your point that it may have suggested a universal practice that was in fact local and situational.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackadder79</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blackadder79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 04:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that women&#039;s perspectives have been glossed over in the study of Native history, but I feel that your use of the &quot;menstrual hut&quot; as a metaphor is judgmental and reductive. If you have a personal beef with this practice, which was not used by all North American Plains tribes, that&#039;s your perspective; however, it&#039;s these kinds of judgmental screeds that have othered us for centuries and made it so much easier for historians to remove nuance from their records when the histories of our cultures are studied.

While I respect your scholarship, I question your use of such language as &quot;But is it really an intervention for which modern historians should be congratulated when we assume that historical Native Americans were rational and had their own politics?&quot; Living in societies of any kind is in itself political organization, and I&#039;m wondering what constitutes &quot;rational,&quot; and if rationality can be measured scientifically and applied as a quantitative measurement rather than thrown about in a gleeful, racist manner as you chose to do in this particular sentence. Perhaps you were using hyperbole; regardless, there are female American Indian graduate students and professors doing amazing work in this field, who you could have found by doing a Google search and consulted before making sweeping generalizations about a broad swath of the country with cultural practices that vary significantly from nation to nation. Perhaps their studies might have uncovered some of the answers to the questions you ask in your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that women&#8217;s perspectives have been glossed over in the study of Native history, but I feel that your use of the &#8220;menstrual hut&#8221; as a metaphor is judgmental and reductive. If you have a personal beef with this practice, which was not used by all North American Plains tribes, that&#8217;s your perspective; however, it&#8217;s these kinds of judgmental screeds that have othered us for centuries and made it so much easier for historians to remove nuance from their records when the histories of our cultures are studied.</p>
<p>While I respect your scholarship, I question your use of such language as &#8220;But is it really an intervention for which modern historians should be congratulated when we assume that historical Native Americans were rational and had their own politics?&#8221; Living in societies of any kind is in itself political organization, and I&#8217;m wondering what constitutes &#8220;rational,&#8221; and if rationality can be measured scientifically and applied as a quantitative measurement rather than thrown about in a gleeful, racist manner as you chose to do in this particular sentence. Perhaps you were using hyperbole; regardless, there are female American Indian graduate students and professors doing amazing work in this field, who you could have found by doing a Google search and consulted before making sweeping generalizations about a broad swath of the country with cultural practices that vary significantly from nation to nation. Perhaps their studies might have uncovered some of the answers to the questions you ask in your post.</p>
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		<title>By: Contamination history &#124; Chinesenamesea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Contamination history &#124; Chinesenamesea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 08:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Women&#039;s and gender history has menstrual blood smeared all over &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wigstorian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wigstorian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 07:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we have spent too many time policing scholars&#039; attention to women and gender in their research and writing. We now need to start pointing accusing fingers and policing publishers who allow such lopsided publications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we have spent too many time policing scholars&#8217; attention to women and gender in their research and writing. We now need to start pointing accusing fingers and policing publishers who allow such lopsided publications.</p>
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		<title>By: Great Men and Famous Deeds, plus trucknutz. : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present</title>
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		<dc:creator>Great Men and Famous Deeds, plus trucknutz. : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 18:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] title of this post (and the image at left) is a Childcraft classic whose influence has been tragically overlooked on modern American [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 17:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on.  It&#039;s disturbing how male subjectivity still rules the writing of history.

(And aside from being sexist, it&#039;s also heterocentric.  Not all women were &quot;wives,&quot; and not all men had wives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on.  It&#8217;s disturbing how male subjectivity still rules the writing of history.</p>
<p>(And aside from being sexist, it&#8217;s also heterocentric.  Not all women were &#8220;wives,&#8221; and not all men had wives.</p>
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		<title>By: Notorious Ph.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Notorious Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 16:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One way I&#039;d like to start combating this is by calling out unthinking phrases like &quot;Colonists and their wives&quot;, &quot;Nobles and their wives&quot;, etc. ad infinitum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One way I&#8217;d like to start combating this is by calling out unthinking phrases like &#8220;Colonists and their wives&#8221;, &#8220;Nobles and their wives&#8221;, etc. ad infinitum.</p>
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