Comments on: Ayn Ryan: the Gen X pol we deserve? Yes, but hardly the first. http://www.historiann.com/2012/08/21/ayn-ryan-the-gen-x-pol-we-deserve-yes-but-hardly-the-first/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:03:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: Lindsay http://www.historiann.com/2012/08/21/ayn-ryan-the-gen-x-pol-we-deserve-yes-but-hardly-the-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1080043 Mon, 27 Aug 2012 19:40:51 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19359#comment-1080043 @Historiann –
“[I]t’s Gen-X parents who have created all of the recent outbreaks of measles and pertussis lately, since a significant slice of us don’t want to vaccinate out children. Part of this may be due to the same libertarian strain, but maybe a larger part of it is that unlike boomers, we never saw anyone confined to an iron lung and never had to stay home swimming because of polio.”

I’d be more willing to believe it’s the latter, and predict that vaccine non-compliance will continue to be a problem as more members of my generation become parents.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2012/08/21/ayn-ryan-the-gen-x-pol-we-deserve-yes-but-hardly-the-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1077891 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:24:17 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19359#comment-1077891 . . . not being much of a joiner anyway, . . .

That is SO Gen-X! Boomers and Millennials are so much more likely to be joiners. Civic and private institutions would wither and die with only Gen-Xers around.

I think perhaps one reason Ayn Rand resonates so much with Gen-Xers is that we grew up in the shadow of the boomers & suffered a withdrawl of public support for our schools (Prop 13, anyone? The Sagebrush Rebellion?) Perhaps it’s no wonder many of us fantasize that we’d be happy to go it alone and follow our own genius (or whatever) a la Roark. Maybe some of that skepticism of the value of government programs runs deep in people who grew up in schools that cut the school year when school levies didn’t pass.

I’ll also note that it’s Gen-X parents who have created all of the recent outbreaks of measles and pertussis lately, since a significant slice of us don’t want to vaccinate our children. Part of this may be due to the same libertarian strain, but maybe a larger part of it is that unlike boomers, we never saw anyone confined to an iron lung and never had to stay home from swimming because of polio.

(I think all of this libertarian stuff is nonsense, but I have to own my generation, so that’s why I say “we” and “us.” Me, I love vaccination and public schools!)

I’ve never heard of a Rand society at my uni, but I’m pretty clueless about what’s going on. I’ve never heard of Rand books assigned in a literature class, or even in an intellectual history class. (At least not yet!)

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By: Contingent Cassandra http://www.historiann.com/2012/08/21/ayn-ryan-the-gen-x-pol-we-deserve-yes-but-hardly-the-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1077875 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:22:30 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19359#comment-1077875 I’ve always described myself (another product of 1964) as “technically a boomer,” so I’ve no objection to losing that label (basically, my theory is that coming at the very tail end of the baby boom means that there is sometimes excess capacity in social infrastructure that caters to my age group — e.g. it was relatively easy for me to get into college, which may also explain something about Palin — but that by the time I get to a certain age, people are really, really tired of catering to that age group. I fear the latter phenomenon is going to be increasingly relevant as the boomers become increasingly expensive to cater to — see, for instance, all the declarations that changes in medicare and/or social security won’t affect those now over 55, which isn’t very comforting to those just under 55, who will have the least time to plan for the changes). I don’t really want to be a Gen X-er though (though I fit the Coupland definition; I was in utero at the time of the Kennedy assassination); not being much of a joiner anyway, I’m perfectly happy *not* to belong to a recognized generation.

Also, I find the fact that I’m the same age as Michelle Obama (another person born in 1964) a bit intimidating (she seems to have much more energy than I do). The fact that I’m the same age as Sarah Palin is considerably less intimidating (even though she, too, seems to have more energy. Sometimes there’s something to be said for just sitting there.)

Is Ayn Rand big at others’ universities? We have an Ayn Rand society and everything. How big it is, I don’t know, but it does seem to have survived past the 4-year mark, which suggests either a critical mass of ongoing interest or outside agitation.

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By: Tenured Radical http://www.historiann.com/2012/08/21/ayn-ryan-the-gen-x-pol-we-deserve-yes-but-hardly-the-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1077798 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:18:52 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19359#comment-1077798 To embed a link in someone else’s blog all you gotta do is write it out in HTML code like we used to do before we had all these fancy-schmancy programs.

Nice post — I’m thinking we tag-team the Repubs to death his fall. Tenured Raducal spent the day that shoulda been spent on syllabi on Todd Akin instead.

Voila.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2012/08/21/ayn-ryan-the-gen-x-pol-we-deserve-yes-but-hardly-the-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1077740 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:58:35 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19359#comment-1077740 HA-ha.

I never read Tolkein. Even as a child and young adult, they seemed just too weird. I read The Fountainhead in high school, and was deeply troubled by the way the major female character was portrayed and the weird relationship that she (and the author) had to Roark (was that his name in that book? I can’t remember.) If that was an “adult relationship,” I thought, count me out!

I seem to remember a rape scene that the female character just loved.

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By: Daniel S. Goldberg http://www.historiann.com/2012/08/21/ayn-ryan-the-gen-x-pol-we-deserve-yes-but-hardly-the-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1077694 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:03:10 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19359#comment-1077694 Re books that change 15-year-old, Brian Leiter posted this humorous graphic:

http://leiterreports.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c2e6353ef0176173bb2e3970c-pi

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By: Northern Barbarian http://www.historiann.com/2012/08/21/ayn-ryan-the-gen-x-pol-we-deserve-yes-but-hardly-the-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1077683 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:48:43 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19359#comment-1077683 No, I missed “Bob Roberts” (I was never good at keeping up with movies). have to check it out!

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By: Susan http://www.historiann.com/2012/08/21/ayn-ryan-the-gen-x-pol-we-deserve-yes-but-hardly-the-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1077495 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 04:07:14 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19359#comment-1077495 @Koshembos, you’re being unkind to the 17th century. They were much more open-minded than the GOP. (Sorry, 17th C historians gotta stand up for our period!)

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2012/08/21/ayn-ryan-the-gen-x-pol-we-deserve-yes-but-hardly-the-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1077433 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:42:51 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19359#comment-1077433 Because I love Gore Vidal! (Who I’m sure *wished desperately* to be Italian, a desperate wish I share.)

I know you hated him, koshembos, but we’ll have to agree to disagree.

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By: koshembos http://www.historiann.com/2012/08/21/ayn-ryan-the-gen-x-pol-we-deserve-yes-but-hardly-the-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1077416 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:47:39 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=19359#comment-1077416 Generation baby bomber sees everyone after them as generation big X. Somehow, the whole GOP seems to me to belong to the 17th century. In other words, they are generation -X.

Why is the lady boss mentioning, and repeatedly, that Italian guy Vidal?

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