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	<title>Comments on: Pat Buchanan, or John C. Calhoun?</title>
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		<title>By: arbitrista</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2012/04/13/pat-buchanan-or-john-c-calhoun/comment-page-1/#comment-999873</link>
		<dc:creator>arbitrista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been saying for years that the modern Republican Party is just a revival of Calhounism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been saying for years that the modern Republican Party is just a revival of Calhounism.</p>
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		<title>By: undine</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2012/04/13/pat-buchanan-or-john-c-calhoun/comment-page-1/#comment-998679</link>
		<dc:creator>undine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say either Calhoun or  John Brown would win a crazy-eyes face-off, but Buchanan can do more contemporary damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say either Calhoun or  John Brown would win a crazy-eyes face-off, but Buchanan can do more contemporary damage.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;but I was struck by the consistency in the ideas and the rhetoric from Calhoun to Buchanan over the past 154+ years. Maybe most of the Calhouns of 2012 are marginalized to writing nasty comments on blogs and news stories, but at least one of them is a respected Washington power player.&quot;

H&#039;ann, I agree, the consistency is quite striking. If your &#039;Calhoun or Buchanan?&#039; exercise doesn&#039;t quite work, is &quot;too softball,&quot; as Susan puts it, it&#039;s only because of the 19th-century grammar and syntax, and characteristic Victorian flourishes, of Calhoun&#039;s prose, not because of any fundamental dissimilarity of purpose or intent on the part of Buchanan. The ideas and the rhetorical manoeuvres of the two men are pretty much the same.

I think it matters, though (I want to believe, need to believe...), that Buchanan is considered a bit of curiosity nowadays: a lovable (ugh. really? not feeling the love here, but anyway...) curmudgeonly grandfather of US politics who must be given a seat at the table of contemporary political commentary, by virtue of his sheer longevity (but also because, yes, and sadly, US racism and xenophobia have a &quot;pedigree&quot;). That Buchanan even has a soapbox is obviously deplorable, but I can&#039;t help thinking (hoping) he is no longer thoroughly respectable, is no longer quite the thing (unlike Calhoun in his day, is what I mean). Wasn&#039;t Buchanan recently fired from his position as commentator for MSNBC, e.g.? More grist for the mill of &quot;anti-white&quot; &quot;racism&quot; in some circles, no doubt, but Buchanan is probably only a few audience measurement points away from debasing himself on Reality TV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but I was struck by the consistency in the ideas and the rhetoric from Calhoun to Buchanan over the past 154+ years. Maybe most of the Calhouns of 2012 are marginalized to writing nasty comments on blogs and news stories, but at least one of them is a respected Washington power player.&#8221;</p>
<p>H&#8217;ann, I agree, the consistency is quite striking. If your &#8216;Calhoun or Buchanan?&#8217; exercise doesn&#8217;t quite work, is &#8220;too softball,&#8221; as Susan puts it, it&#8217;s only because of the 19th-century grammar and syntax, and characteristic Victorian flourishes, of Calhoun&#8217;s prose, not because of any fundamental dissimilarity of purpose or intent on the part of Buchanan. The ideas and the rhetorical manoeuvres of the two men are pretty much the same.</p>
<p>I think it matters, though (I want to believe, need to believe&#8230;), that Buchanan is considered a bit of curiosity nowadays: a lovable (ugh. really? not feeling the love here, but anyway&#8230;) curmudgeonly grandfather of US politics who must be given a seat at the table of contemporary political commentary, by virtue of his sheer longevity (but also because, yes, and sadly, US racism and xenophobia have a &#8220;pedigree&#8221;). That Buchanan even has a soapbox is obviously deplorable, but I can&#8217;t help thinking (hoping) he is no longer thoroughly respectable, is no longer quite the thing (unlike Calhoun in his day, is what I mean). Wasn&#8217;t Buchanan recently fired from his position as commentator for MSNBC, e.g.? More grist for the mill of &#8220;anti-white&#8221; &#8220;racism&#8221; in some circles, no doubt, but Buchanan is probably only a few audience measurement points away from debasing himself on Reality TV.</p>
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		<title>By: Janice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 23:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, we&#039;ve been juxtaposing that picture of Calhoun with Count Dooku from the &lt;EM&gt;Star Wars&lt;/EM&gt; prequels for our secret project. . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, we&#8217;ve been juxtaposing that picture of Calhoun with Count Dooku from the <em>Star Wars</em> prequels for our secret project. . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2012/04/13/pat-buchanan-or-john-c-calhoun/comment-page-1/#comment-997610</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 22:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indyanna, believe it or not, that was one of the LEAST crazy-eyed images of Calhoun I could find.  Just go to images.google.com, and dial up &quot;John C. Calhoun.&quot;  The daguerrotypes are particularly disturbing.  

(Let&#039;s just say he&#039;s NOT a candidate for &lt;a href=&quot;http://mydaguerreotypeboyfriend.tumblr.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;My Daguerrotype Boyfriend&lt;/a&gt;.)

Wait, GayProf:  what?  A new book on the 19th C U.S.-Mexican borderlands?  Surely you don&#039;t think anyone who reads this blog could possibly be interested in that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indyanna, believe it or not, that was one of the LEAST crazy-eyed images of Calhoun I could find.  Just go to images.google.com, and dial up &#8220;John C. Calhoun.&#8221;  The daguerrotypes are particularly disturbing.  </p>
<p>(Let&#8217;s just say he&#8217;s NOT a candidate for <a href="http://mydaguerreotypeboyfriend.tumblr.com/" rel="nofollow">My Daguerrotype Boyfriend</a>.)</p>
<p>Wait, GayProf:  what?  A new book on the 19th C U.S.-Mexican borderlands?  Surely you don&#8217;t think anyone who reads this blog could possibly be interested in that.</p>
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		<title>By: GayProf</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayProf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 17:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait -- Calhoun and Buchanan are two different people?  Are you sure?  That doesn&#039;t sound right to me.

If only there was a recent book on the U.S.-Mexican border in the nineteenth century... *cough*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait &#8212; Calhoun and Buchanan are two different people?  Are you sure?  That doesn&#8217;t sound right to me.</p>
<p>If only there was a recent book on the U.S.-Mexican border in the nineteenth century&#8230; *cough*</p>
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		<title>By: Indyanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indyanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 17:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calhoun&#039;s aversion to &quot;incorporation&quot; didn&#039;t dissuade most of his generation from visions of territorial *conquest* any more than did the different ideas of New England abolitionists.  Anyone have any ideas about what may have put that expression on Calhoun&#039;s face below the signature Crazy Eyes--the backward lean and dumbfounded mouth?  A boa constrictor slithering into a committee room with a cloture motion grasped in its maw?  A senate janitor with a ladder and hammer getting ready to hang a portrait of John Quincy Adams?  A long beloved nephew with a backpack, a boat ticket to California, and a request for a $500 letter of credit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calhoun&#8217;s aversion to &#8220;incorporation&#8221; didn&#8217;t dissuade most of his generation from visions of territorial *conquest* any more than did the different ideas of New England abolitionists.  Anyone have any ideas about what may have put that expression on Calhoun&#8217;s face below the signature Crazy Eyes&#8211;the backward lean and dumbfounded mouth?  A boa constrictor slithering into a committee room with a cloture motion grasped in its maw?  A senate janitor with a ladder and hammer getting ready to hang a portrait of John Quincy Adams?  A long beloved nephew with a backpack, a boat ticket to California, and a request for a $500 letter of credit?</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 13:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary Catherine:  I think you&#039;re probably right about most of the Calhouns of 2012, but I was struck by the consistency in the ideas and the rhetoric from Calhoun to Buchanan over the past 154+ years.  Maybe most of the Calhouns of 2012 are marginalized to writing nasty comments on blogs and news stories, but at least one of them is a respected Washington power player.  

Why is that?

(It is difficult to find a Buchanan quotation from his book that doesn&#039;t reference something that happened since 1848, so that&#039;s why in the end I chose a Calhoun excerpt for this post.  But still, the historical vision and interpretive imagination is remarkably consistent.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Catherine:  I think you&#8217;re probably right about most of the Calhouns of 2012, but I was struck by the consistency in the ideas and the rhetoric from Calhoun to Buchanan over the past 154+ years.  Maybe most of the Calhouns of 2012 are marginalized to writing nasty comments on blogs and news stories, but at least one of them is a respected Washington power player.  </p>
<p>Why is that?</p>
<p>(It is difficult to find a Buchanan quotation from his book that doesn&#8217;t reference something that happened since 1848, so that&#8217;s why in the end I chose a Calhoun excerpt for this post.  But still, the historical vision and interpretive imagination is remarkably consistent.)</p>
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		<title>By: J. Otto Pohl</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Otto Pohl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 13:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going by Mexican soap operas, however, it appears that all Mexican women are white with blond hair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going by Mexican soap operas, however, it appears that all Mexican women are white with blond hair.</p>
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		<title>By: polarbearfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>polarbearfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 06:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, unless you thought that there were some people reading your blog who found Calhoun&#039;s or Buchanan&#039;s ideas palatable,why did you bother to write the post in the first place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, unless you thought that there were some people reading your blog who found Calhoun&#8217;s or Buchanan&#8217;s ideas palatable,why did you bother to write the post in the first place?</p>
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