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	<title>Comments on: Feel the Santormentum!  Know your Romney:  A Janus-face for January</title>
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		<title>By: Comrade PhysioProf</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2012/01/04/feel-the-santormentum-know-your-romney-a-janus-face-for-january/comment-page-1/#comment-941653</link>
		<dc:creator>Comrade PhysioProf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 03:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I am no longer persuaded by the argument that 2% less evil is a compelling argument to vote Democratic.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

People can certainly reasonably differ on whether the difference is 2% or some larger number, which we obviously do. This is a pretty interesting and apropos post:

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/01/making-choice-elections-context-and.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am no longer persuaded by the argument that 2% less evil is a compelling argument to vote Democratic.</p></blockquote>
<p>People can certainly reasonably differ on whether the difference is 2% or some larger number, which we obviously do. This is a pretty interesting and apropos post:</p>
<p><a href="http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/01/making-choice-elections-context-and.html" rel="nofollow">http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/01/making-choice-elections-context-and.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 22:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, Profane--buckle up for some Huntsmentum!!!

I think you put this very nicely:  &lt;i&gt;&quot;while he appears to have personal principles, he does not appear to have political principles.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;  That&#039;s where I thought the Vanity Fair article was quite good--it gives a very fair overview of his business success and LDS leadership, and I think it shows that he is a very personally principled person.  (They&#039;re not my principles, mind you, but he has shown a great deal of consistency and constancy in his personal and business lives.)  But as you say, constant political principles?  Not so much, and that&#039;s why most Republicans are wary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, Profane&#8211;buckle up for some Huntsmentum!!!</p>
<p>I think you put this very nicely:  <i>&#8220;while he appears to have personal principles, he does not appear to have political principles.&#8221;</i>  That&#8217;s where I thought the Vanity Fair article was quite good&#8211;it gives a very fair overview of his business success and LDS leadership, and I think it shows that he is a very personally principled person.  (They&#8217;re not my principles, mind you, but he has shown a great deal of consistency and constancy in his personal and business lives.)  But as you say, constant political principles?  Not so much, and that&#8217;s why most Republicans are wary.</p>
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		<title>By: Profane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Profane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 22:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mostly Republican family dislikes Romney for the same reason that they disliked him four years ago - while he appears to have personal principles, he does not appear to have political principles. If he was elected we would have to prepare ourselves for four years of executive leadership by focus group. The one candidate we like is, naturally, essentially dead last in the polls. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mostly Republican family dislikes Romney for the same reason that they disliked him four years ago &#8211; while he appears to have personal principles, he does not appear to have political principles. If he was elected we would have to prepare ourselves for four years of executive leadership by focus group. The one candidate we like is, naturally, essentially dead last in the polls. . .</p>
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		<title>By: quixote</title>
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		<dc:creator>quixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 16:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ComradePhysioProf: &lt;em&gt;&quot;Obama is clearly beholden to monied interests, he is *also* beholden to other interests: labor, gender parity, environmentalism....&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Srsly?

I tried to laugh so I wouldn&#039;t cry, but it didn&#039;t work. 

You have to start reading the news, CPP, painful as it is. I&#039;ll grant that the Repubs have a worse line of talk, but as the Black Agenda Report says, Obama is the more effective evil judging by his actual record. (Indefinite detention, extrajudicial assassination, now also extended to US citizens and on paper at least to US soil, cutting Social Security and Medicare treated like a &quot;serious&quot; idea, right down to so help me God &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/98940/tnr-the-most-overlooked-stories-2011&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dropping the ball on the Do Not Call Registry&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ComradePhysioProf: <em>&#8220;Obama is clearly beholden to monied interests, he is *also* beholden to other interests: labor, gender parity, environmentalism&#8230;.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Srsly?</p>
<p>I tried to laugh so I wouldn&#8217;t cry, but it didn&#8217;t work. </p>
<p>You have to start reading the news, CPP, painful as it is. I&#8217;ll grant that the Repubs have a worse line of talk, but as the Black Agenda Report says, Obama is the more effective evil judging by his actual record. (Indefinite detention, extrajudicial assassination, now also extended to US citizens and on paper at least to US soil, cutting Social Security and Medicare treated like a &#8220;serious&#8221; idea, right down to so help me God <a href="http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/98940/tnr-the-most-overlooked-stories-2011" rel="nofollow">dropping the ball on the Do Not Call Registry</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 15:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel--I think you&#039;re right that Santorum is trying to exploit his connection to some of the same demographic that felt a connection to Clinton.  It&#039;s just that I think he&#039;s an extremely awkward pol, but that&#039;s just my opinion.

I am no longer persuaded by the argument that 2% less evil is a compelling argument to vote Democratic.  I fail to see how that might be construed as a &quot;right-wing&quot; point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel&#8211;I think you&#8217;re right that Santorum is trying to exploit his connection to some of the same demographic that felt a connection to Clinton.  It&#8217;s just that I think he&#8217;s an extremely awkward pol, but that&#8217;s just my opinion.</p>
<p>I am no longer persuaded by the argument that 2% less evil is a compelling argument to vote Democratic.  I fail to see how that might be construed as a &#8220;right-wing&#8221; point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 14:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, maybe I hadn&#039;t had enough coffee when I compared Santorum to Clinton. But I had just heard some clip of him that struck me as very B. Clinton-esque. It&#039;s not like I like the guy. I just think that in certain situations, he comes off as far more personable than any of the others in this campaign. Crazy uncle Ronnie is certainly consistent and authentic, but not in a cozy sort of way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, maybe I hadn&#8217;t had enough coffee when I compared Santorum to Clinton. But I had just heard some clip of him that struck me as very B. Clinton-esque. It&#8217;s not like I like the guy. I just think that in certain situations, he comes off as far more personable than any of the others in this campaign. Crazy uncle Ronnie is certainly consistent and authentic, but not in a cozy sort of way.</p>
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		<title>By: Comrade PhysioProf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comrade PhysioProf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama is yet to show high school ability.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!! Yeah, tell that to the Harvard Law Review!!

Seriously, to read this post and some of the comments, you&#039;d think this was some fucken deranged right-wing blogge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama is yet to show high school ability.</p></blockquote>
<p>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!! Yeah, tell that to the Harvard Law Review!!</p>
<p>Seriously, to read this post and some of the comments, you&#8217;d think this was some fucken deranged right-wing blogge.</p>
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		<title>By: Sweet Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sweet Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 10:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comparing Santorum to Bill Clinton may be the wackiest thing I&#039;ve ever read, rather like comparing a dashboard bobblehead to the Statue of Liberty.
Clinton convinced people that he cared because he really did care as you can see by his post presidential work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing Santorum to Bill Clinton may be the wackiest thing I&#8217;ve ever read, rather like comparing a dashboard bobblehead to the Statue of Liberty.<br />
Clinton convinced people that he cared because he really did care as you can see by his post presidential work.</p>
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		<title>By: koshembos</title>
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		<dc:creator>koshembos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 04:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t clear whether agreeing and disagreeing with the Comrade is good or bad. In the books at my library both Obama and Romney are kind of slow and not very bright. With the right provenance and discipline one can make billions in our gangy economy. Obama is yet to show high school ability.

Obama is not at all &quot;beholden to other interests: labor, gender parity, environmentalism, etc.&quot; It&#039;s true particularly for a second term. All these constituencies will see is a f..er.

Poor us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t clear whether agreeing and disagreeing with the Comrade is good or bad. In the books at my library both Obama and Romney are kind of slow and not very bright. With the right provenance and discipline one can make billions in our gangy economy. Obama is yet to show high school ability.</p>
<p>Obama is not at all &#8220;beholden to other interests: labor, gender parity, environmentalism, etc.&#8221; It&#8217;s true particularly for a second term. All these constituencies will see is a f..er.</p>
<p>Poor us.</p>
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		<title>By: Indyanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indyanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 02:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who could imagine living in a 4-year Santorum state hasn&#039;t lived in Pennsylvania lately.  I&#039;m sure he&#039;s more consistent in his &quot;beliefs&quot; than Romney is, but they should be practiced elsewhere. I could deal with the hard-edged empiricist personality in Romney, conversely, but he really does seem to be willing to embrace almost any portion of the center-to-far-right spectrum that he thinks is sitting in front of him.  Gail Collins keeps harping on the fact that Romney supposedly once drove the family to a vacation in Canada with the family dog strapped on the roof of the car.  I&#039;m willing to google almost anything, but I haven&#039;t gotten around to fact-checking that one yet. But if I was (still) an Iowan I think I would have been inclined to write in the Unabomber, just to make a statement.

I have a photocopy of a December, 1967 front page in a Philadelphia newspaper with a picture of Old Pops Romney (George) standing in shirtsleeves in Vietnam talking to a staff sargeant from suburban Detroit, on the cusp of the Tet Offensive and about to self-destruct HIS road to the White House with some ill-considered candor and impulsive verbalizing.  It happens to be on the same page as a story about of the comedic melt-down of a reenactment of Washington crossing the Delaware River the previous day, so I show it to my American Revolution students every February for the latter reason.  It should be pretty interesting this time out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who could imagine living in a 4-year Santorum state hasn&#8217;t lived in Pennsylvania lately.  I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s more consistent in his &#8220;beliefs&#8221; than Romney is, but they should be practiced elsewhere. I could deal with the hard-edged empiricist personality in Romney, conversely, but he really does seem to be willing to embrace almost any portion of the center-to-far-right spectrum that he thinks is sitting in front of him.  Gail Collins keeps harping on the fact that Romney supposedly once drove the family to a vacation in Canada with the family dog strapped on the roof of the car.  I&#8217;m willing to google almost anything, but I haven&#8217;t gotten around to fact-checking that one yet. But if I was (still) an Iowan I think I would have been inclined to write in the Unabomber, just to make a statement.</p>
<p>I have a photocopy of a December, 1967 front page in a Philadelphia newspaper with a picture of Old Pops Romney (George) standing in shirtsleeves in Vietnam talking to a staff sargeant from suburban Detroit, on the cusp of the Tet Offensive and about to self-destruct HIS road to the White House with some ill-considered candor and impulsive verbalizing.  It happens to be on the same page as a story about of the comedic melt-down of a reenactment of Washington crossing the Delaware River the previous day, so I show it to my American Revolution students every February for the latter reason.  It should be pretty interesting this time out.</p>
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