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Weekly List Bookmarks (weekly) | Eccentric Eclectica @ ToddSuomela.com — Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:37:08 +0000

[...] Sunday round-up: the “crisis in higher ed,” your turn edition : Historiann : History and sexual … [...]

By: Perpetua

Perpetua — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:56:58 +0000

@Susan & Lance: “Enjoy her! She’s a perk!” I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. That’s just everything that’s wrong with everything, in two sentences.

By: The “crisis” in higher ed? truffula sniffs out “administrative bloat.” : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present

Tue, 15 Nov 2011 16:16:41 +0000

[...] all of the contributions I’ve had to the “crisis” of higher education meme inspired by Tony Grafton’s recent review in the New York Review of Books, no one has yet [...]

By: Still working… | Mictlantecuhtli

Still working… | Mictlantecuhtli — Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:19:14 +0000

[...] of which, I have very good reason not to think this series of posts is from a crowd of people who do not do anything in real life to address the problems they perceive [...]

By: Susan

Susan — Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:11:17 +0000

@Lance: Wow. He doesn’t even know that saying this is a problem. I think the worst part is the definition of “Normal girls – more interested in abs than in labs, more interested in pecs than specs, more interested in triceps than tripos.”

And we wonder why there is a glass ceiling.

By: Comrade PhysioProf

Comrade PhysioProf — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:12:12 +0000

What crawled up your ass and died this morning?

Wut?

By: Lance

Lance — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:29:24 +0000

Um, here is one problem with higher ed. Jeebus:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/mortarboard/2009/sep/23/kealey-female-students-perk?fb=optOut

By: Historiann

Historiann — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:29:00 +0000

What crawled up your ass and died this morning?

I guess I should have specified that of course these questions would be asked in public, in the pages of the letters to the editor of the local newspaper, or at a townhall meeting, or on the floor of the statehouse itself.

What would be the point of asking these questions only in private meetings? (Who would ever do that?)

By: Comrade PhysioProf

Comrade PhysioProf — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:17:06 +0000

The point is to highlight the gap between what elites deem appropriate for their children versus what they prescribe to the proles, and to do this for the benefit of the public repeatedly and often. It’s not to change the minds of the elites, or to convince them to send their children to Kaplan U.

I was clearly misunderstanding your rhetorical stance, confused by your entreaties to “get up in the grills” of the elite about this in relation to their own children.

By: Historiann

Historiann — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:52:17 +0000

Hardly! This is what’s called a rhetorical question, CPP.

The point is to highlight the gap between what elites deem appropriate for their children versus what they prescribe to the proles, and to do this for the benefit of the public repeatedly and often. It’s not to change the minds of the elites, or to convince them to send their children to Kaplan U.

Are you seriously suggesting that there’s no point in raising this issue publicly?