Comments on: Was I really too harsh on Steve Jobs? http://www.historiann.com/2011/10/21/was-i-really-too-harsh-on-steve-jobs/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:03:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: Jeremy C. Young http://www.historiann.com/2011/10/21/was-i-really-too-harsh-on-steve-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-895558 Sat, 29 Oct 2011 00:13:37 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=16997#comment-895558 Thought I’d put in my two cents, since I remember being the one who criticized your less-than-delicate treatment of the dead the last time there was a disagreement about this (with John Updike). This time? I have to say I find your critics’ response baffling. It is not spitting on the dead to suggest that their deification is premature. For what it’s worth, I thought your original post was, in fact, right on the money.

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By: quixote http://www.historiann.com/2011/10/21/was-i-really-too-harsh-on-steve-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-892387 Sat, 22 Oct 2011 18:22:56 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=16997#comment-892387 Jobs was a genius. At marketing. And he had very good taste. (Now, why does that remind of the line from an old Rolling Stones song, “I’m a man of wealth and taste”?) He didn’t invent anything. And, as a Linux user, believe me, the claims that Apple — which did stuff like try to stop you from transferring files between your own electronics without going through some iStore — the claims that Apple was some kind of progressive revolutionary force always had me rolling around in gales of laughter.

Less funny is the line about commissioning a biography so his kids would know what he did. What? He couldn’t talk to them?

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By: Evan http://www.historiann.com/2011/10/21/was-i-really-too-harsh-on-steve-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-892164 Sat, 22 Oct 2011 08:15:55 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=16997#comment-892164 Off-topic and pedantic. Ezra pound couldn’t have joined the nazi party as it didn’t exist in the UK until 1937-38. Pound did submit articles to the British Union of Fascists’ journals on several occasions, but did not join the BUF.

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By: Indyanna http://www.historiann.com/2011/10/21/was-i-really-too-harsh-on-steve-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-892026 Sat, 22 Oct 2011 01:01:58 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=16997#comment-892026 p.s. Harry Truman would have issued an executive order nationalizing the offices of the Chair/CEO at Apple, and directed Employee No. 001 to report to the Airport Westin at 14:20 hours on the day in question, and to hell with Youngstown Sheet and Tube v. Sawyer!

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By: Indyanna http://www.historiann.com/2011/10/21/was-i-really-too-harsh-on-steve-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-892023 Sat, 22 Oct 2011 00:54:11 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=16997#comment-892023 This sounds like Andrew Carnegie wouldn’t meet President Cleveland because Cleveland wanted him to come down to the train platform while his train was re-coaling at the Pittsburgh depot while the man of steel (r) preferred that the other president climb the stairs to the main waiting room.

Jobs certainly got the *word* out in academia. A couple of my colleagues damn nearly had a cow yesterday to learn that they couldn’t get the same low, low rate university subsidy for Macbooks that the U. was offering the rest of us for what they characerized as us “slaves to Windows.” Like it was a human rights issue, rather than just another garden variety narrative about the suits and the vendors.

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By: Spanish Prof http://www.historiann.com/2011/10/21/was-i-really-too-harsh-on-steve-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-891948 Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:08:39 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=16997#comment-891948 And if Steve Jobs statement regarding the issue sounds disingenuous, take a look at the comments on this thread: they are illuminating.
http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/30/steve-jobs-statement-on-conflict-minerals/

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By: Spanish Prof http://www.historiann.com/2011/10/21/was-i-really-too-harsh-on-steve-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-891947 Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:06:43 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=16997#comment-891947 And don’t forget Apple’s ambiguous stance regarding the use of “conflict minerals” from Africa:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/07/16/the-genocide-behind-your-smart-phone.html

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By: arbitrista http://www.historiann.com/2011/10/21/was-i-really-too-harsh-on-steve-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-891932 Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:38:40 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=16997#comment-891932 I’m certainly not going to criticize you. I’m not sure why anyone celebrates wealthy corporate executives. Ever.

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By: shaz http://www.historiann.com/2011/10/21/was-i-really-too-harsh-on-steve-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-891924 Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:59:19 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=16997#comment-891924 One of my favorite pieces on Jobs’ death (and the death of other less-well-known heroes): http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/07/opinion/fred-shuttlesworth-marching-in-kings-shadow.html?src=tp&smid=fb-share

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By: Charlie http://www.historiann.com/2011/10/21/was-i-really-too-harsh-on-steve-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-891921 Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:51:50 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=16997#comment-891921 This little tidbit jumped out at me as revealing and hilarious:

Bill Gates was fascinated by Steve Jobs but found him “fundamentally odd” and “weirdly flawed as a human being,” and his tendency to be “either in the mode of saying you were shit or trying to seduce you.”

Jobs once declared about Gates, “He’d be a broader guy if he had dropped acid once or gone off to an ashram when he was younger.”

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