Comments on: Barack Hoover Obama, I presume http://www.historiann.com/2011/07/08/barack-hoover-obama-i-presume/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:41:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: FrauTech http://www.historiann.com/2011/07/08/barack-hoover-obama-i-presume/comment-page-1/#comment-847315 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 23:30:10 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=15831#comment-847315 On the family budgeting analogy, a commentor on one of the NYT blogs came up with this analogy (that I can’t claim responsibility for unfortunately), remove a few 0′s from the debt and GDP…

Say your family has a guaranteed, very stable $100,000 a year income. You buy a home and take out a $140,000 mortgage at incredibly low interest.

Not so unreasonable, right? Or you make a very stable $100,000 a year but end up spending $140,000 to send three kids through college. Also not unreasonable in today’s rising tuition numbers. You might expect that $140,000 investment in their education to pay off in the long run and you will probably be right.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2011/07/08/barack-hoover-obama-i-presume/comment-page-1/#comment-847208 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:41:47 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=15831#comment-847208 BWAHAHAHAHAhahahahaha!

Emma FTW!

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By: Emma http://www.historiann.com/2011/07/08/barack-hoover-obama-i-presume/comment-page-1/#comment-847204 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:31:33 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=15831#comment-847204 There’s no way out of the coming lost decade with this President in place. And all anybody can talk about is how to spin the craptastic economy so this chump can get re-elected in 2012. It’s awful. Just awful.

I’m never going to say Bill Clinton was the most liberal of Democrats. But, good gravy, I’d blow him myself if it would get him back into the Oval office.

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By: Indyanna http://www.historiann.com/2011/07/08/barack-hoover-obama-i-presume/comment-page-1/#comment-847163 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:37:00 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=15831#comment-847163 Wow, I was hoping there wouldn’t be a second, so I could just say thanks and return to syllabizing. Now I have to cross the green and try to talk my dean into a one-course release, which is about what he would offer. (Or more probably, try to bargain me down to a part-time grader). I’d also say, invoking A. Bartlett Giamatti of old, that the only thing I ever wanted to be president of was the Pennsylvania Railroad. And now it’s gone.

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By: Z http://www.historiann.com/2011/07/08/barack-hoover-obama-i-presume/comment-page-1/#comment-847074 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 05:51:27 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=15831#comment-847074 Yes, Indyanna for President and thanks CPP. I think Betty Ford deserves a post. Here’s my favorite postmortem on her: http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/celebrities/125249709.html

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2011/07/08/barack-hoover-obama-i-presume/comment-page-1/#comment-847005 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:04:39 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=15831#comment-847005 And CPP: thanks for the linkies. The political alliances now remind me of the days of the buildup to the Iraq invasion of 2002, when I found myself agreeing more with Pat Buchanan than with the so-called “serious liberals” like Josh Marshall and George Packer (just to name two examples) who talked themselves into supporting the war initially.

I’m getting tired of being right all of the time, I tell ya. It gets exhausting screaming at everyone about the cliff ahead when they completely refuse to listen to me.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2011/07/08/barack-hoover-obama-i-presume/comment-page-1/#comment-847004 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:55:37 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=15831#comment-847004 HA! Indyanna for President in 2012.

I think you’re right: hardball would help in the right pitcher’s hands, but I’m afraid at this point that Obama and Boehner agree on more than they disagree. Obama has shown in the past that he can play hardball–against women Democrats whom he faces in primary races. This is something that always made me suspicious of him–that he played footsie with conservatives and Republicans while reserving the tough stuff for Alice Palmer and Hillary Clinton.

From the news I’ve heard this weekend, Boehner has played his hand masterfully.

And Undine: that’s exactly it! Flattering and pandering to the max. But, the Republicans and conservatives figured out that flattering Americans by calling them moral and prudent works better than calling them stupid racists–you have to give them credit for that stroke of political genius that continues to elude liberals. Also, conservatives have learned their lesson from the GWB years & they have resisted relying on the Republican party alone to serve their agenda. That’s what the Tea Party is all about. Say what you will about the Tea Partiers, but they’re smarter than liberals in creating a group outside a major party to put pressure on the Republicans, and it’s worked masterfully.

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By: Indyanna http://www.historiann.com/2011/07/08/barack-hoover-obama-i-presume/comment-page-1/#comment-846973 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:12:37 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=15831#comment-846973 They ran Geithner out there today to pretty pretty please the other side of the aisle not to “walk away” from a deficit deal, and to say that the boss is prepared to do “very very politically painful things” if the deal can be salvaged. I would instead have had the Energy Secretary out there to announce that an “orderly shutdown” of all Tennessee Valley Authority facilities would be the down payment on the executive branch’s “sobering responsibilities” in the event of a debt ceiling shutoff. Just to have some fun and to cancel a few staff picnics/softball games on the Hill in the coming weeks.

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By: undine http://www.historiann.com/2011/07/08/barack-hoover-obama-i-presume/comment-page-1/#comment-846935 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:41:57 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=15831#comment-846935 Absolutely this:”Most Americans are soaking in debt, and they know it!” But the point isn’t that the mythical “American family” being invoked lives within its means; it doesn’t. It’s yet another brilliantly evil page from the playbook that shamelessly panders to the public’s image of itself rather than the reality. Example: “I personally have a chance to be obscenely rich some day–that’s the American Dream!–so therefore the rich cannot be taxed.”

Those who fall for this nonsense are avoiding looking in the reality mirror; they want Maleficent’s mirror instead, and, ahem, some politicians are willing to give it to them.

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By: myiq2xu http://www.historiann.com/2011/07/08/barack-hoover-obama-i-presume/comment-page-1/#comment-846924 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:41:21 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=15831#comment-846924 Obama sucks like a Hoover vacuum

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