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	<title>Comments on: The breast milk &#8220;cure:&#8221;  how can something so miraculous and cheap be resisted by women worldwide?</title>
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		<title>By: ugsome</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2011/06/26/the-breast-milk-cure-how-can-something-so-miraculous-and-cheap-be-resisted-by-women-worldwide/comment-page-1/#comment-846075</link>
		<dc:creator>ugsome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 09:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Digger:  selfish or selfless?  I&#039;m puzzled at &#039;selfish.&#039;  Selfish for refusing to produce magical goodness on demand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Digger:  selfish or selfless?  I&#8217;m puzzled at &#8216;selfish.&#8217;  Selfish for refusing to produce magical goodness on demand?</p>
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		<title>By: Back in the saddle again : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present</title>
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		<dc:creator>Back in the saddle again : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 18:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is directly related to the conversation we had last week about that odd and offensive discussion of breastfeeding rates in Africa by Nicholas Kristof, who [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ugsome</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2011/06/26/the-breast-milk-cure-how-can-something-so-miraculous-and-cheap-be-resisted-by-women-worldwide/comment-page-1/#comment-845342</link>
		<dc:creator>ugsome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 09:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I breastfed and I was happy to do it, but I know first-hand that nursing, pumping, working full-time, losing sleep and being off medication for a chronic condition  is absolutely *exhausting*. After 8 months of it I lost my damn marbles and had to take a month off work.   I respect the hell out of anyone who pulls it off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I breastfed and I was happy to do it, but I know first-hand that nursing, pumping, working full-time, losing sleep and being off medication for a chronic condition  is absolutely *exhausting*. After 8 months of it I lost my damn marbles and had to take a month off work.   I respect the hell out of anyone who pulls it off.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly, nicolec!  But that&#039;s how the ideology of (as Digger put it) &quot;selfish magical factories of goodness&quot; plus &quot;instincts&quot; works:  your environment, economic means, time, or personal judgement are meaningless.  Welcome to motherhood, the marvelous uncompensated work that everyone feels free to criticize and let you know that &quot;U R doin&#039; in rong!&quot;

(Happy half-birthday to your little boy!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, nicolec!  But that&#8217;s how the ideology of (as Digger put it) &#8220;selfish magical factories of goodness&#8221; plus &#8220;instincts&#8221; works:  your environment, economic means, time, or personal judgement are meaningless.  Welcome to motherhood, the marvelous uncompensated work that everyone feels free to criticize and let you know that &#8220;U R doin&#8217; in rong!&#8221;</p>
<p>(Happy half-birthday to your little boy!)</p>
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		<title>By: nicolec</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicolec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erm, there is a lot of ignorance about breastfeeding in this article. I&#039;m a healthy, middle-class American, in a job that allows me to pump during the day, and I&#039;ve struggled to pump enough to feed my little boy (who will be 6 months next week).  We&#039;ve had to supplement with formula while I&#039;m at work.  I don&#039;t know about other women, but my supply is very sensitive to how often my baby feeds and to how much water I&#039;ve taken in for the day.  It isn&#039;t easy to breast feed exclusively and I think this whole, &#039;geez, if only they&#039;d realize the answer is in their boobs&#039; response is offensive to say the least.  While I don&#039;t believe in a mother instinct as society likes to suppose all women have, I do believe that mothers want their children to thrive and will do whatever they think is best to achieve that- it is shame he didn&#039;t ask them why they don&#039;t breastfeed and write about their answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erm, there is a lot of ignorance about breastfeeding in this article. I&#8217;m a healthy, middle-class American, in a job that allows me to pump during the day, and I&#8217;ve struggled to pump enough to feed my little boy (who will be 6 months next week).  We&#8217;ve had to supplement with formula while I&#8217;m at work.  I don&#8217;t know about other women, but my supply is very sensitive to how often my baby feeds and to how much water I&#8217;ve taken in for the day.  It isn&#8217;t easy to breast feed exclusively and I think this whole, &#8216;geez, if only they&#8217;d realize the answer is in their boobs&#8217; response is offensive to say the least.  While I don&#8217;t believe in a mother instinct as society likes to suppose all women have, I do believe that mothers want their children to thrive and will do whatever they think is best to achieve that- it is shame he didn&#8217;t ask them why they don&#8217;t breastfeed and write about their answers.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 18:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a follow-up on HIV/AIDS.  Yes, it&#039;s still recommended that HIV+ women breastfeed in some circumstances, but not all.  I&#039;m writing from South Africa, where clean water is generally (though not universally) available and HIV rates for pregnant women approach 40%, it is not recommended in such cases.  And in this circumstance, public health messages promoting breastfeeding risk identifying and stigmatizing HIV+ women who are attempting to provide the medically recommended care for their children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a follow-up on HIV/AIDS.  Yes, it&#8217;s still recommended that HIV+ women breastfeed in some circumstances, but not all.  I&#8217;m writing from South Africa, where clean water is generally (though not universally) available and HIV rates for pregnant women approach 40%, it is not recommended in such cases.  And in this circumstance, public health messages promoting breastfeeding risk identifying and stigmatizing HIV+ women who are attempting to provide the medically recommended care for their children.</p>
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		<title>By: cgeye</title>
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		<dc:creator>cgeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Historiann, how would someone search for breast milk folklore in Early American culture? I am asking for a friend....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Historiann, how would someone search for breast milk folklore in Early American culture? I am asking for a friend&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: LadyProf</title>
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		<dc:creator>LadyProf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathie, thanks for your review.  I hadn&#039;t seen any other studies of &quot;Half the Sky&quot; that mention patriarchy, the elephant in the global room.  Your analysis makes me dislike Kristof even more.  He mines oppression for professional profit.  If patriarchy went away, he&#039;d be out of a job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathie, thanks for your review.  I hadn&#8217;t seen any other studies of &#8220;Half the Sky&#8221; that mention patriarchy, the elephant in the global room.  Your analysis makes me dislike Kristof even more.  He mines oppression for professional profit.  If patriarchy went away, he&#8217;d be out of a job.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Historiann

&quot;Don’t babies start sleeping longer and more soundly once they’ve got some solid food in their bellies to tide them over?&quot;

Not necessarily.  First kid slept through the night (which is defined as 5 or 6 hours straight) at one week.  Second kid waited until almost 2 to consistently sleep through.  By that point, 2nd was eating solids enthusiastically.  

It was a looong two years.  


@Emma

&quot;Is giving a child frozen breast milk not breastfeeding somehow?&quot;

Opinions vary, in my experience.  If the mom--a working mom almost by definition--believes passionately in the benefits of breast milk, then she&#039;ll bend over backwards to make sure that it&#039;s what her child eats, regardless of the delivery system.  The subgroup of mothers believing that it&#039;s not just about the eating but about being with your kid 24/7 might have issues with it.  It&#039;s not an argument I ever care to get into.  What I do with my kids (1st did have breastmilk from the bottle; 2nd didn&#039;t, mostly because she wouldn&#039;t take a bottle from anyone) is pretty much my business and no one else&#039;s.

Historiann, my mom had about the same experience as yours re breast feeding my siblings and I--though I think for my elder sister she went longer than 6 weeks.  The amount of time went down with each kid, not too surprisingly.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Don’t babies start sleeping longer and more soundly once they’ve got some solid food in their bellies to tide them over?&#8221;</p>
<p>Not necessarily.  First kid slept through the night (which is defined as 5 or 6 hours straight) at one week.  Second kid waited until almost 2 to consistently sleep through.  By that point, 2nd was eating solids enthusiastically.  </p>
<p>It was a looong two years.  </p>
<p>@Emma</p>
<p>&#8220;Is giving a child frozen breast milk not breastfeeding somehow?&#8221;</p>
<p>Opinions vary, in my experience.  If the mom&#8211;a working mom almost by definition&#8211;believes passionately in the benefits of breast milk, then she&#8217;ll bend over backwards to make sure that it&#8217;s what her child eats, regardless of the delivery system.  The subgroup of mothers believing that it&#8217;s not just about the eating but about being with your kid 24/7 might have issues with it.  It&#8217;s not an argument I ever care to get into.  What I do with my kids (1st did have breastmilk from the bottle; 2nd didn&#8217;t, mostly because she wouldn&#8217;t take a bottle from anyone) is pretty much my business and no one else&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Historiann, my mom had about the same experience as yours re breast feeding my siblings and I&#8211;though I think for my elder sister she went longer than 6 weeks.  The amount of time went down with each kid, not too surprisingly.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathie--that was brilliant.  Thanks for linking to your review.  I really liked your emphasis on the false dichotomy implied when Kristof and WuDunn urge us to focus on &quot;changing reality, not changing laws,&quot; as though women&#039;s &quot;reality&quot; is somehow not profoundly shaped by politics and the law.  

Sheesh.  But as you suggest, it&#039;s evidence once again of attempts to reform a set of practices as though they&#039;re not part of a much larger and more complex system.  Yes, charitable organizations are doing some good work as you note, just as it&#039;s a good thing if an individual woman decides to breastfeed her infant, but neither of them amounts to much more than a hill of beans in terms of systemic change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathie&#8211;that was brilliant.  Thanks for linking to your review.  I really liked your emphasis on the false dichotomy implied when Kristof and WuDunn urge us to focus on &#8220;changing reality, not changing laws,&#8221; as though women&#8217;s &#8220;reality&#8221; is somehow not profoundly shaped by politics and the law.  </p>
<p>Sheesh.  But as you suggest, it&#8217;s evidence once again of attempts to reform a set of practices as though they&#8217;re not part of a much larger and more complex system.  Yes, charitable organizations are doing some good work as you note, just as it&#8217;s a good thing if an individual woman decides to breastfeed her infant, but neither of them amounts to much more than a hill of beans in terms of systemic change.</p>
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