Comments on: Wednesday round-up: How-to edition

By: susurro

susurro — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:35:27 +0000

I just looked over the review of Tina Fey’s book and am also dismayed by Garofalo’s self-depreication (particularly in the second paragraph). I wonder about the fact that even women who are credited for having given a voice to a sort of “feminist rage” (problematic terms I know) ultimately still internalize messages of inadequacy, life in comparison rather than its own right, etc. And I am reminded of a conversation a colleague repeated to me about dinner with her feminist moms in which she proudly told them the college had hired a new feminist professor and one her moms responded “is she single? you know girls like that never date well unless she is a lesbian.” Sad how the world seems to stay the same even in “progressive” circles.

By: cgeye

cgeye — Fri, 08 Apr 2011 17:40:16 +0000

I can dig it — I just assume that the women escorting men about should be armed peace officers with the right to criticize the men on their clothing, deportment, and public character. If men rape and condone rapists, then their policing should be *real policing*.

By: Historiann

Historiann — Fri, 08 Apr 2011 14:06:51 +0000

In my original plan, I think a woman or women was/were required to escort the men around.

But, in any case: my point is that men should for a change have to take precautions and have their mobility and access to campus spaces limited, since they are now a minority of U.S. university students.

By: J. Otto Pohl

J. Otto Pohl — Fri, 08 Apr 2011 14:00:50 +0000

Your plan for preventing sexual assaults would have been worthless regarding the latest one here at University of Ghana. It was by a group of male students in a dormitory. They may well have even been studying when they came across the woman they accused of stealing and stripped her naked and molested her. So cgeye appears to be correct in that your solution would not end rape, but rather change individual rapes into gang rapes.

By: JJO

JJO — Thu, 07 Apr 2011 14:06:34 +0000

Actual quote from a paper at a conference I attended last week: “How am I doing on time? Ah, good. Because what it says here is ‘improvise.’”

I sort of admired the honesty (and humor), but not so much that I wasn’t annoyed that the paper went on for twice as long as it should have.

By: Dr. Crazy

Dr. Crazy — Thu, 07 Apr 2011 04:01:57 +0000

How do I MEET Johnny Depp? He lives in France. I don’t have a visa…. Seriously? I thought that was the most awesome part of the Jen Kirkman thing.

By: cgeye

cgeye — Wed, 06 Apr 2011 20:21:32 +0000

Um, making teh mens walk in groups? Would only encourage gang-rape. Mens making lemonade, y’know….

but “consent training”? CONSENT TRAINING? What’s next, hoochie-coochie dancing? Pipe and slipper fetching? It puts the usual advice “anything you do to survive is OK” in a whole new, patriarchy-unthreatening light.

By: Susan

Susan — Wed, 06 Apr 2011 19:37:41 +0000

I think your rape prevention policy is excellent.

By: koshem bos

koshem bos — Wed, 06 Apr 2011 18:52:37 +0000

Presentations must alway appeal directly and without extra effort to the listeners. They cannot be detailed because details are too boring to follow and difficult for those that are outside. They must have some innovation otherwise why listen. As was said before by many: “if I listen for 5 minutes and cannot understand, it’s a bad presentation, if after 10 minutes I know the end, what the point in staying. But if something intrigues me, I like it.

I don’t care what you do with your husband and I don’t what my neighbor Joe does with his husband either. Rape is violence and violence is what our government does, not individuals. In the end, just treat violence equally no matter who inflicts it on whom.

By: Indyanna

Indyanna — Wed, 06 Apr 2011 17:22:29 +0000

Definitely good points from Notorious all around. Definitely don’t bombard them with too many arguments, and double-definitely don’t say about your own paper, “wow, this is really messed up…” These reminders work at all experience levels too, I think.