Comments on: Is “gringo” offensive? http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/15/is-gringo-offensive/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Tue, 23 Sep 2014 02:57:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: Andrea http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/15/is-gringo-offensive/comment-page-1/#comment-2023881 Fri, 02 May 2014 13:58:21 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13858#comment-2023881 Someone used it to describe another person in my office this morning – a person that was not present – and I took offense to it.

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By: Robero http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/15/is-gringo-offensive/comment-page-1/#comment-1407329 Sun, 31 Mar 2013 04:34:19 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13858#comment-1407329 Pinches Grijngod…

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By: Robero http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/15/is-gringo-offensive/comment-page-1/#comment-1407328 Sun, 31 Mar 2013 04:34:02 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13858#comment-1407328 Pinches Gringos….

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By: ryan http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/15/is-gringo-offensive/comment-page-1/#comment-1258778 Sun, 06 Jan 2013 03:10:46 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13858#comment-1258778 http://gringoisracism.weebly.com/

Yes the word gringo is very offensive!

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By: Tony @ HowtoPeru.com http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/15/is-gringo-offensive/comment-page-1/#comment-816762 Tue, 19 Apr 2011 23:57:35 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13858#comment-816762 I’ve backpacked throughout South America for about 2 years and have been living in Peru for about the same amount of time. Everyone calls me gringo – I’m a foreigner, so fair enough. It’s not an insult in South America. Peruvians use it among themselves – they often refer to light-skinned Peruvians as gringos (or gringas). It’s never bothered me at all – the only thing that irritates me is when I hear the “green go!” word-origin theory (from the US-Mexico war). It’s blatantly wrong!

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By: Tom http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/15/is-gringo-offensive/comment-page-1/#comment-777006 Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:39:50 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13858#comment-777006 At the risk of seeming beyond the pale of the discourse here, I am inclined to take the position that the person or group addressed always has the right to identify a label as offensive or not, and those who wish to use the label do not have that power. I won’t deny that one’s position in a traditional power structure can interact with this principle, but I firmly believe that no one should be able to tell me what I should or should not find an offensive label when it’s applied to me, and I believe I should extend the same courtesy to others.

Telling people to “get over themselves” seems to me to ask others to share our personal sense of what is and what isn’t offensive: it’s about one attempting to enforce one’s own perspective on others. Of course, we all also have the right to actively offend others by calling them names or labeling them through ridicule (e.g., “pearl clutchers”), but no one should be able to say “you shouldn’t be offended by my ridicule.”

I personally wish to re-invigorate the insulting term “fatcats” to refer to powerful millionaires: but I think it would be wrong for me to claim that no one should be insulted if I call them a fatcat, because their status as a powerful millionaire makes them immune to insult words.

I have never felt personally insulted by “gringo,” but I’m not ready to say that no one should be, just because many white people enjoy privilege.

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By: quixote http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/15/is-gringo-offensive/comment-page-1/#comment-775880 Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:29:40 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13858#comment-775880 Christ on a bike in a pancake hat. I’m with Koshary. To the pearl-clutchers: Get the F over yourselves.

There’s a big difference between calling a privileged group names while discussing a huge issue for a less-privileged group, and just flinging insults to put someone down. I fault NPR for giving this BS any air.

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By: gxm17 http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/15/is-gringo-offensive/comment-page-1/#comment-775170 Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:46:47 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13858#comment-775170

gxm17, take a look at (or listen to) Hernandez’s whole article. It’s not a news story, but rather an opinion/perspective piece.

I understand that it was an opinion piece but IMO it was presented in a news/journalism venue. NPR is, presumably, supposed to be notch or two (or three) above, say, Fox News. When speaking one’s mind in a professional setting, I’m of the opinion that it’s best to leave out racial slang.

thefrogprincess is right (again!): race, like sex, is disappeared in the analysis of these events, because we have normalized and tacitly accepted white male gun violence.

That’s precisely what I said: most folks are, unfortunately, just not interested in because angry white guys with guns are pretty much our national mascots. Not only is this sort of violence normalized, it’s often revered. There are plenty of people who are boisterously proud of the “fact” that this country was established by angry white men with guns, and then there are the rest of us who either quietly or begrudgingly accept that perspective. IMO, it’s a shame that Ms. Hernandez alienated people that would have benefited from her perspective.

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By: Dr. Koshary http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/15/is-gringo-offensive/comment-page-1/#comment-775153 Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:55:54 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13858#comment-775153 @Historiann and Feminist Avatar: In Texas, at least, ‘Anglo’ has relatively little to do with language spoken, and absolutely nothing to do with Anglo-Saxon genetic provenance. It has everything to do with racial categories that intersect with class and power. ‘Anglo’ doesn’t contrast with ‘Celtic’ but with ‘Mexican’ and ‘Black’.

Hence, when I moved to Texas, I discovered that people were sometimes uncertain of whether I were ‘Mexican’ or ‘Anglo’. (I speak Spanish and have non-blond, non-blue-eyed features.) Once they established that my family never came from Mexico, they were satisfied that I was Anglo, even though I have never, ever identified as such. (And back in Hometown, people would think I’d gone around the bend even to use such an identifier!) Scots-Americans in Texas identified as such only on Burns Night; the rest of the time, they were Anglo, even if it pained their kin back in Scotland.

I assume that the racial categories in Arizona, another part of Greater Mexico, are pretty similar in nature.

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