Comments on: Brief interlude: from the mixed-up files of the brain-dead critique of higher ed http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/06/brief-interlude-from-the-mixed-up-files-of-the-brain-dead-critique-of-higher-ed/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Tue, 23 Sep 2014 14:15:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: truffula http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/06/brief-interlude-from-the-mixed-up-files-of-the-brain-dead-critique-of-higher-ed/comment-page-1/#comment-769672 Fri, 07 Jan 2011 23:07:12 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13794#comment-769672 capital improvements to campuses

I don’t know about private colleges but as I understand it, state systems have tight rules about the sources of funds for capital improvements. A decreasing fraction comes from the state general fund, some comes from state bonds, and the rest must be raised via project-specific capital campaigns, shared use deals with the private sector, maybe the state lottery if you have one, and state/federal funds for specific purposes (Recovery Act funds for deferred maintenance; code compliance; etc.). There is also money to be had from agencies for upgrades with specific research or teaching outcomes.

One way schools can get money out of students for infrastructure is through building “fees” for student-life-centered facilities like rec centers. We have fees for all sorts of stuff here at Provincial State U and they do inflate the total quite a bit but the base tuition, that’s going up because money from the state is going down.

Much of the rationale I have heard for decoupling public universities from state governance structures (to become public corporations) is that it loosens up fundraising for infrastructure.

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By: Comrade PhysioProf http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/06/brief-interlude-from-the-mixed-up-files-of-the-brain-dead-critique-of-higher-ed/comment-page-1/#comment-769620 Fri, 07 Jan 2011 21:43:58 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13794#comment-769620 I know absolutely nothing about the macro level finances of higher education that drive dramatic tuition increases, but I’m gonna make a wild-ass guess that the biggest driver is the financing of capital improvements to campuses. I suspect this is much bigger than administrator salaries.

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By: FrauTech http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/06/brief-interlude-from-the-mixed-up-files-of-the-brain-dead-critique-of-higher-ed/comment-page-1/#comment-769536 Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:07:34 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13794#comment-769536 Well I don’t know why no one realizes how grossly overpaid most administrators are, but I do know why we don’t care about CEOs. Most workers are not in Academia so when we look to our future we ourselves in corporate America. And we buy the myth, the “American dream”, that if we keep working hard enough we’ll move up (i’ll grant you some people do). It’s like we play the lottery every week in hopes that we win. And instead of lottery money going to states or whatever let’s pretend it just makes five guys super rich. We still wouldn’t care. We are dumb and think we have an opportunity to move into upper management some day, so we don’t like to see restrictions placed on their salaries or taxes because we envision ourselves there.

That’s the problem with public employees and faculty, the “public” is generally a private sector worker, and can not identify with academic or government employees. Therefore we think they are paid too much.

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By: truffula http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/06/brief-interlude-from-the-mixed-up-files-of-the-brain-dead-critique-of-higher-ed/comment-page-1/#comment-768956 Fri, 07 Jan 2011 02:10:51 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13794#comment-768956 The new bosses in the U.S. House of Reps just renamed the Committee on Education and Labor. It is now the Committee on Education and the Workforce. Good times ahead, I’m sure.

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By: J. Otto Pohl http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/06/brief-interlude-from-the-mixed-up-files-of-the-brain-dead-critique-of-higher-ed/comment-page-1/#comment-768799 Thu, 06 Jan 2011 22:58:11 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13794#comment-768799 It is obvious as Historiann mentions here and at other places that faculty in the US and in other countries I will note are extremely underpaid. It is also clear that university administrators are grossly overpaid. The first class of people need raises. The second class need to have their salaries reduced to adjunct levels. How come universities never hire adjunct administrators to reduce labor costs by the way? At my previous place of employment the president officially made $8000 a month (who knows how much she stole). In contrast as an associate professor I made less than $1000 a month. To save on costs she drove away or fired all the Ph.Ds at the ‘university’ in order to hire people with only MAs and save $200 a month.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/06/brief-interlude-from-the-mixed-up-files-of-the-brain-dead-critique-of-higher-ed/comment-page-1/#comment-768750 Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:57:11 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13794#comment-768750 Of possible interest to some of you: Robert Reich, “The Shameful Attack on Public Employees.” Lots of crunchy data in there, too.

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By: koshembos http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/06/brief-interlude-from-the-mixed-up-files-of-the-brain-dead-critique-of-higher-ed/comment-page-1/#comment-768611 Thu, 06 Jan 2011 18:11:21 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13794#comment-768611 This “new” approach to all working people are overpaid is widespread in our society. As everyone knows, The TBTF banks, CEO, VPs and other high flying inept people that take home huge salaries are not overpaid. The poor and the middle class are. University professors are “obviously” overpaid for several reasons: they are overpaid (axiomatic), science is garbage, they are semi-unionized (axiomatically blood suckers) and whenever prices (i.e. tuition) go up it’s the workers fault.

Hebrew has the saying: “A country that consumes its inhabitants.” It’s us now.

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By: wini http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/06/brief-interlude-from-the-mixed-up-files-of-the-brain-dead-critique-of-higher-ed/comment-page-1/#comment-768595 Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:46:36 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13794#comment-768595 I spend 34 of my 40 hours a week on campus lounging in one of our 3 outdoor pools. I for one am definitely not in favor of cutting our budget for such necessities to learning.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/06/brief-interlude-from-the-mixed-up-files-of-the-brain-dead-critique-of-higher-ed/comment-page-1/#comment-768576 Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:24:29 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13794#comment-768576 “Research” and “facts” on a big city op-ed page? That’s not the point. The point is to continue to circulate these brain-dead, fact-free memes that “everyone knows” so that “everone” will continue to “know” that university faculty are to blame with everything wrong with universities: Tuition is too high? Faculty salaries! Grade inflation? Faculty laziness! Students not learning what they should? Faculty malfeasance! Classes too political? Faculty radicals!

The DP has one paleoconservative who actually appears on occasion to care about facts and research, and that’s Vincent Carroll. Rosen and the brain-dead conservatarian David Harsanyi are pure ideologues. I used to write letters to the editor to try to correct Harsanyi’s most ridiculously innacurate claims about the Constitution and early American history, but I’ve given up. (You can look it up on Lexus-Nexus if you’re interested.)

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By: rustonite http://www.historiann.com/2011/01/06/brief-interlude-from-the-mixed-up-files-of-the-brain-dead-critique-of-higher-ed/comment-page-1/#comment-768555 Thu, 06 Jan 2011 16:29:56 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13794#comment-768555 His comments are especially surprising, given that the Denver Post has a searchable database of state salaries, which includes the higher ed system. It would have taken him about 20 minutes of half-assed research to realize he’s wrong.

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