Comments on: The beatings actually *will* continue until morale improves! http://www.historiann.com/2010/11/30/the-beatings-actually-will-continue-until-morale-improves/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Tue, 21 May 2013 21:51:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4 By: Emma http://www.historiann.com/2010/11/30/the-beatings-actually-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-748174 Emma Thu, 02 Dec 2010 18:28:23 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13425#comment-748174 <i>Wait–how is her handling of Kirchner evidence that she’s not a feminist?</i> She's not all nurturin' an' shit. Wait–how is her handling of Kirchner evidence that she’s not a feminist?

She’s not all nurturin’ an’ shit.

]]> By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2010/11/30/the-beatings-actually-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-748113 Historiann Thu, 02 Dec 2010 15:55:50 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13425#comment-748113 Wait--how is her handling of Kirchner evidence that she's not a feminist? When she's made the claim over and over and over again, from (at least) Bejing in 1995 to the present in her role as SoS that women's rights are human rights? I don't care how she treats individual women premiers. I care that she uses diplomacy to advance women's rights where she can. Wait–how is her handling of Kirchner evidence that she’s not a feminist? When she’s made the claim over and over and over again, from (at least) Bejing in 1995 to the present in her role as SoS that women’s rights are human rights?

I don’t care how she treats individual women premiers. I care that she uses diplomacy to advance women’s rights where she can.

]]> By: Emma http://www.historiann.com/2010/11/30/the-beatings-actually-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-748110 Emma Thu, 02 Dec 2010 15:46:54 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13425#comment-748110 Oh, Hillary, you're just so objectively much worse than any man in the world. Yet, how I love thee just for those very qualities. Oh, Hillary, you’re just so objectively much worse than any man in the world. Yet, how I love thee just for those very qualities.

]]> By: Z http://www.historiann.com/2010/11/30/the-beatings-actually-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-748045 Z Thu, 02 Dec 2010 10:19:37 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13425#comment-748045 She *does* have more stones than Obama, she is even more ideologically bellicose and has no morals from WAY back; this is why I like her even less than his formerly merely useless, now actually detrimental self. The Wikileaks link her to assassination attempts in Iran, and here's a great one on her solidarity with other women - for those of you under the illusion she was feminist: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/29/hillary-clinton-cristina-kirchner-stress She *does* have more stones than Obama, she is even more ideologically bellicose and has no morals from WAY back; this is why I like her even less than his formerly merely useless, now actually detrimental self. The Wikileaks link her to assassination attempts in Iran, and here’s a great one on her solidarity with other women – for those of you under the illusion she was feminist:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/29/hillary-clinton-cristina-kirchner-stress

]]> By: Comrade PhysioProf http://www.historiann.com/2010/11/30/the-beatings-actually-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-747822 Comrade PhysioProf Wed, 01 Dec 2010 19:48:38 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13425#comment-747822 I voted for Hillary in the primary, and I console/enrage myself with the thought that she would have exhibited a fucketonne more stones than Obama. I voted for Hillary in the primary, and I console/enrage myself with the thought that she would have exhibited a fucketonne more stones than Obama.

]]> By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2010/11/30/the-beatings-actually-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-747815 Historiann Wed, 01 Dec 2010 19:12:25 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13425#comment-747815 Most congresspeople and certainly U.S. Senators don't live on their salaries, since so many of them are independently wealthy. This is why I think they just don't get it--they don't live off of their paychecks. Neither the budget deficit nor the national debt is going to be changed an iota by dumba$$ political theater like this. I'm hoping that the unions finally wise up and stay home in 2012, quite frankly. They've been dreadfully treated by the Dem majorities they worked long and hard to elect in 2006 and '08, not to mention the Whole Foods Nation guy in the WH. Most congresspeople and certainly U.S. Senators don’t live on their salaries, since so many of them are independently wealthy. This is why I think they just don’t get it–they don’t live off of their paychecks.

Neither the budget deficit nor the national debt is going to be changed an iota by dumba$$ political theater like this. I’m hoping that the unions finally wise up and stay home in 2012, quite frankly. They’ve been dreadfully treated by the Dem majorities they worked long and hard to elect in 2006 and ’08, not to mention the Whole Foods Nation guy in the WH.

]]> By: Belle http://www.historiann.com/2010/11/30/the-beatings-actually-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-747801 Belle Wed, 01 Dec 2010 18:15:01 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13425#comment-747801 Well, here's an idea. Let's freeze politicians' salaries at the level of a GS12. All GS12s and up freeze do too. Lower ranks don't get an immediate raise, but any raises go only as far as GS12s until the deficit is cleared. Not the debt, the deficit. No more limos or special functions, no more subsidies to oil companies, tobacco or financial corporations. Risk assigned and felt by those who take it, not the vast public. No more tax breaks for the rich (c'mon people, tax cuts are spending too). Discussions about Medicare expense are aimed at two places: patients and reimbursements. Let's add cost in there too! If people would just <i>ask</i>, I could solve all problems. (snarky snarls) Well, here’s an idea. Let’s freeze politicians’ salaries at the level of a GS12. All GS12s and up freeze do too. Lower ranks don’t get an immediate raise, but any raises go only as far as GS12s until the deficit is cleared. Not the debt, the deficit. No more limos or special functions, no more subsidies to oil companies, tobacco or financial corporations. Risk assigned and felt by those who take it, not the vast public. No more tax breaks for the rich (c’mon people, tax cuts are spending too). Discussions about Medicare expense are aimed at two places: patients and reimbursements. Let’s add cost in there too!

If people would just ask, I could solve all problems. (snarky snarls)

]]> By: FrauTech http://www.historiann.com/2010/11/30/the-beatings-actually-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-747787 FrauTech Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:41:34 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13425#comment-747787 No surprise to me here. I bet he wanted to do something like freeze federal salaries above a certain amount. But of course, people woulda freaked out over how that's socialism (because while the vast majority of fed employees don't make a whole lot, they probably have a lot of high level managers in various departments). I also thought though that Congress shouldn't have healthcare until the country has universal health coverage. But I guess republican lawmakers don't want to trust the "private market" for their healthcare. To be fair, the Simpson-Bowles proposal included something like a 10% across the board paycut for all federal employees. So this is definitely preferable to that. He looks like a moderate when you hold up all the crazy ideas the opposition has. But yeah, otherwise he comes across pretty far on the right. No surprise to me here. I bet he wanted to do something like freeze federal salaries above a certain amount. But of course, people woulda freaked out over how that’s socialism (because while the vast majority of fed employees don’t make a whole lot, they probably have a lot of high level managers in various departments). I also thought though that Congress shouldn’t have healthcare until the country has universal health coverage. But I guess republican lawmakers don’t want to trust the “private market” for their healthcare.

To be fair, the Simpson-Bowles proposal included something like a 10% across the board paycut for all federal employees. So this is definitely preferable to that. He looks like a moderate when you hold up all the crazy ideas the opposition has. But yeah, otherwise he comes across pretty far on the right.

]]> By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2010/11/30/the-beatings-actually-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-747764 Historiann Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:46:39 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13425#comment-747764 Jack--if you look back in my archives, you'll find that I was never at Obamabot. In fact, I argued here that the messianism and the content-free nature of his campaign were troubling and disturbing, and that he didn't merit the hope that progressives invested in him. I've always been skeptical of both Obama's political skills and his agenda. I just can't help from writing the occasional post in which I point out that I was right again. (I know it's not attractive to remind people that I was right, but hey--it's my blog, and a lot of my readers were right there with me too.) Jack–if you look back in my archives, you’ll find that I was never at Obamabot. In fact, I argued here that the messianism and the content-free nature of his campaign were troubling and disturbing, and that he didn’t merit the hope that progressives invested in him.

I’ve always been skeptical of both Obama’s political skills and his agenda. I just can’t help from writing the occasional post in which I point out that I was right again. (I know it’s not attractive to remind people that I was right, but hey–it’s my blog, and a lot of my readers were right there with me too.)

]]> By: JackDanielsBlack http://www.historiann.com/2010/11/30/the-beatings-actually-will-continue-until-morale-improves/comment-page-1/#comment-747646 JackDanielsBlack Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:31:02 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=13425#comment-747646 Do I sense a little disenchantment with the Great One? What a difference a couple of years (and a midterm election) make! Do I sense a little disenchantment with the Great One? What a difference a couple of years (and a midterm election) make!

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