Comments on: America’s war on teachers http://www.historiann.com/2010/10/01/americas-war-on-teachers/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Thu, 25 Sep 2014 17:18:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: The War on Teachers Ignorance III: What Could Work « The Confluence http://www.historiann.com/2010/10/01/americas-war-on-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-736062 Sun, 31 Oct 2010 22:06:46 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12655#comment-736062 [...] title is inspired by Historiann’s excellent post. Also a note: unlike most of the things I blog about, teaching is what I’ve [...]

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By: Acid Test » The War on Teachers Ignorance III: What Could Work http://www.historiann.com/2010/10/01/americas-war-on-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-736013 Sun, 31 Oct 2010 19:56:00 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12655#comment-736013 [...] title is inspired by Historiann’s excellent post. Also a note: unlike most of the things I blog about, teaching is what I’ve [...]

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By: Acid Test » War on Teachers II: Why It Can’t Work http://www.historiann.com/2010/10/01/americas-war-on-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-735697 Sat, 30 Oct 2010 18:22:41 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12655#comment-735697 [...] title is inspired by Historiann’s excellent post. Also a note: unlike most of the things I blog about, teaching is what I’ve [...]

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By: War on Teachers I: GIGO « The Confluence http://www.historiann.com/2010/10/01/americas-war-on-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-735408 Fri, 29 Oct 2010 21:59:46 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12655#comment-735408 [...] title is inspired by Historiann’s excellent post. Also a note: unlike most of the things I blog about, teaching is what I’ve [...]

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By: Acid Test » War on Teachers I: GIGO http://www.historiann.com/2010/10/01/americas-war-on-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-735405 Fri, 29 Oct 2010 21:56:15 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12655#comment-735405 [...] title is inspired by Historiann’s excellent post. Also a note: unlike most of the things I blog about, teaching is what I’ve [...]

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By: Dispatches from the supply side of teacher ed. : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present http://www.historiann.com/2010/10/01/americas-war-on-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-731755 Sat, 23 Oct 2010 14:35:15 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12655#comment-731755 [...] that they don’t like the direction of public secondary education, with all of the testing and the beating up on teachers in our public discourse.  Some of them hang it up and switch out of the SST track, while others just express concerns [...]

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2010/10/01/americas-war-on-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-729974 Wed, 20 Oct 2010 01:40:52 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12655#comment-729974 But, what makes a teacher a “bad teacher?” One parent complaining that one teacher is ineffective at teaching one student does not mean that the teacher is “bad.” (I’m not saying that other students weren’t complaining in your case–I’m talking about a hypothetical.) The fact is that some teachers work for some students and parents, and not for others. In my line of work, I have the luxury of telling students to take a hike if they don’t like me or my methods. K-12 teachers don’t generally have that kind of luxury, nor do their students, since school until age 16 is mandatory and state-enforced.

I understand your frustration, but I think there needs to be a fair process for the teachers, and a recognition that different teachers work better with some students than others, and that’s not necessarily the teachers’ fault.

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By: jennybean http://www.historiann.com/2010/10/01/americas-war-on-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-729795 Tue, 19 Oct 2010 20:16:32 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12655#comment-729795 I think it’s true that “blame the teachers” is not, in *general*, the way forward.

But *nothing* makes a kid’s education like a good teacher, and not much harms it more than a really bad one.

I think we need to support teachers with better pay and better *everything* if they are doing a competent job (NO not just based on test scores…also factoring in parent surveys or focus groups, kid surveys, portfolios, classroom observations).

But then we need a real process for getting rid of (or at least demoting and paying less for) teachers who just aren’t good at teaching. I complained about a teacher once (once!) The principal said she’d be happy to listen to me “vent” if that helped (um, no, not really). But she had no process to follow unless the teacher’s behavior was “offensive, discriminatory or criminal.”

That just can’t be right either.

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By: Freckles http://www.historiann.com/2010/10/01/americas-war-on-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-723133 Tue, 05 Oct 2010 20:49:07 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12655#comment-723133 “Instead, we blame the teachers. It must be their fault. After all, they’re the only ones showing up for the kids every day. ”

You tell ‘em!!!

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By: Tim Lacy http://www.historiann.com/2010/10/01/americas-war-on-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-722487 Mon, 04 Oct 2010 17:49:09 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12655#comment-722487 I’m just “liking” this for the sake of it. – TL

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