Comments on: The Old Belle is Still Ringing: the Tea Party and white women’s activism http://www.historiann.com/2010/09/30/the-old-belle-is-still-ringing-the-tea-party-and-white-womens-activism/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:58:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: White women’s political work: still impulsive, never strategic : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present http://www.historiann.com/2010/09/30/the-old-belle-is-still-ringing-the-tea-party-and-white-womens-activism/comment-page-1/#comment-861136 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:26:20 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12635#comment-861136 [...] wrote last fall about the recurring trope of the “accidental” white woman activist: The media trope of the politically-clueless-white-woman-turned-activist is an interesting [...]

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By: Aishlin http://www.historiann.com/2010/09/30/the-old-belle-is-still-ringing-the-tea-party-and-white-womens-activism/comment-page-1/#comment-723734 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 02:51:47 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12635#comment-723734 Jack (if you’re still checking these comments), here’s an interesting editorial that expresses what I wanted to say more eloquently than I could have, and with statistics: http://www.thenation.com/article/155094/sex-and-gop

The upshot is, female Tea Party candidates are more popular with men than women.

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By: Comrade PhysioProf http://www.historiann.com/2010/09/30/the-old-belle-is-still-ringing-the-tea-party-and-white-womens-activism/comment-page-1/#comment-721361 Sat, 02 Oct 2010 23:02:49 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12635#comment-721361 Very interesting poste. I never really thought aboutte this whole “now even the white women are pissed off” as suche a racist and sexist trope.

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By: Fratguy http://www.historiann.com/2010/09/30/the-old-belle-is-still-ringing-the-tea-party-and-white-womens-activism/comment-page-1/#comment-721177 Sat, 02 Oct 2010 17:35:33 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12635#comment-721177 “Palin has a shot at being our next president”. A handle or two of your namesake liquor says she’ll collapse like a flan in the cupboard. At the very least you are saying she is as empty as the current president, which I wholeheartedly agree with.

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By: JackDanielsBlack http://www.historiann.com/2010/09/30/the-old-belle-is-still-ringing-the-tea-party-and-white-womens-activism/comment-page-1/#comment-721090 Sat, 02 Oct 2010 13:28:15 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12635#comment-721090 Aishlin, I don’t think what we’re seeing now is the “deployment of (white) women by conservative factions”; I think it is the leadership by white women of conservative factions, a different thing entirely. Like it or not, Sarah Palin has a shot at being our next President — just as big a shot as Barack Obama had at this stage of the last Presidential campaign. And surely you can’t be happy with the way the Democratic party treated Hillary Clinton last time around?

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By: Aishlin http://www.historiann.com/2010/09/30/the-old-belle-is-still-ringing-the-tea-party-and-white-womens-activism/comment-page-1/#comment-721053 Sat, 02 Oct 2010 12:02:40 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12635#comment-721053 Jack, conservative women are getting press because a) they’re a novelty: women still overwhelmingly vote Democrat and the Republicans are not generally known as a female-friendly party (even less so than the Dems!), and b) there are a lot of conservatives saying crazy things right now and the media has more fun mocking ignorant or wacky statements when they come from female politicians, thus the obsession with Palin and O’Donnell. They may be generating a lot of noise, but conservative women are not a majority -especially not among younger demographics. Nor is the deployment of (white) women by conservative factions a new phenomenon, as Historiann just pointed out in the post above.

As a young woman, albeit not in any way one “seizing political leadership,” I’m tired of the trope of conservative young women rebelling against those stodgy old feminists like Clinton. Some of my peers may be uninterested in the feminist label, but the majority of us are still solidly liberal.

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By: JackDanielsBlack http://www.historiann.com/2010/09/30/the-old-belle-is-still-ringing-the-tea-party-and-white-womens-activism/comment-page-1/#comment-720949 Sat, 02 Oct 2010 07:20:32 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12635#comment-720949 Fratguy, I was talking about dynamic young women today, not tired older women yesterday. In any case, if I were a Democratic feminist, I do not believe that I would be inspired by the example of Clinton in 2008–looks to me like she hit the ultimate glass ceiling.

Perpetua, I guess it all depends on your definition of feminist. All I know is that the strong, dynamic women seizing political leadership today mostly seem to be conservative Republicans, and I think this should be of interest to feminist women everywhere. Why isn’t this happening in the Democratic party?

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By: Perpetua http://www.historiann.com/2010/09/30/the-old-belle-is-still-ringing-the-tea-party-and-white-womens-activism/comment-page-1/#comment-720784 Fri, 01 Oct 2010 23:50:47 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12635#comment-720784 @Jack – I guess I’d have to see evidence that some of these women were actually feminists before I’d call it a new wave of feminism. Just because they’re women in the public eye, or even important political movers-and-shakers, doesn’t mean they’re feminists.

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By: Fratguy http://www.historiann.com/2010/09/30/the-old-belle-is-still-ringing-the-tea-party-and-white-womens-activism/comment-page-1/#comment-720780 Fri, 01 Oct 2010 23:35:19 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12635#comment-720780 Maybe, we’ll see how the mid terms turn out before deciding that O’Connel is part of a “wave”, Jack.
In the mean time, I seem to remember a woman of a certain age going pretty far in the Democratic primaries only two years ago, winning a majority of the popular vote as a matter of fact, as well as earning sincere admiration and praise from Sarah Palin. Real accomplishments take time.

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By: JackDanielsBlack http://www.historiann.com/2010/09/30/the-old-belle-is-still-ringing-the-tea-party-and-white-womens-activism/comment-page-1/#comment-720756 Fri, 01 Oct 2010 22:36:01 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=12635#comment-720756 Isn’t it interesting that all the prominent dynamic young women in politics these days seem to be “mama grizzlies” or at least conservative republicans? Could this be the start of a new wave of feminism? And where are the leftie equivalents? Inquiring minds want to know!

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