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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2010/09/20/for-profit-flim-flam/comment-page-1/#comment-715397</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny coincidence:  I just received an e-mail from a student of mine from 4-1/2 years ago.  He had contacted me earlier in the summer for a letter of recommendation, and wanted to report that he was enrolled in the graduate program of his choice and doing well.

Would a student who had taken a class with a temporary or &quot;special&quot; faculty member 4+ years earlier be able to track down that adjunct for a letter?  Would she remember him well enough to write an effective letter on his behalf?  Would he care enough to keep her posted about his professional progress?  I don&#039;t know for sure, but I&#039;m glad for this student&#039;s sake (and many others) that I&#039;m not an adjunct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny coincidence:  I just received an e-mail from a student of mine from 4-1/2 years ago.  He had contacted me earlier in the summer for a letter of recommendation, and wanted to report that he was enrolled in the graduate program of his choice and doing well.</p>
<p>Would a student who had taken a class with a temporary or &#8220;special&#8221; faculty member 4+ years earlier be able to track down that adjunct for a letter?  Would she remember him well enough to write an effective letter on his behalf?  Would he care enough to keep her posted about his professional progress?  I don&#8217;t know for sure, but I&#8217;m glad for this student&#8217;s sake (and many others) that I&#8217;m not an adjunct.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2010/09/20/for-profit-flim-flam/comment-page-1/#comment-715298</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Natalis--that&#039;s true.  I didn&#039;t mean to demean the contributions of non-tt faculty.  However, because at-will employees have a tendency NOT to be around more than a few years, it&#039;s difficult if not impossible for even dedicated former students to track them down and request letters of recommendation, references, etc.  Relying on temps to do the full-time work is short-sighted at best, and abusive of both faculty and students at worst.

Perpetua--I see what you&#039;re saying, and I didn&#039;t like Bob Smith&#039;s punative approach either.  However, I think it&#039;s more than a little ethically dodgy for tenured or tenure-track folks to moonlight at another institution.  But, &quot;special&quot; and other non-tenure track faculty--all&#039;s fair in love and war, right?  (Another reason why it&#039;s professionally and ethically dubious to try to run a uni on non-tenure track labor.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natalis&#8211;that&#8217;s true.  I didn&#8217;t mean to demean the contributions of non-tt faculty.  However, because at-will employees have a tendency NOT to be around more than a few years, it&#8217;s difficult if not impossible for even dedicated former students to track them down and request letters of recommendation, references, etc.  Relying on temps to do the full-time work is short-sighted at best, and abusive of both faculty and students at worst.</p>
<p>Perpetua&#8211;I see what you&#8217;re saying, and I didn&#8217;t like Bob Smith&#8217;s punative approach either.  However, I think it&#8217;s more than a little ethically dodgy for tenured or tenure-track folks to moonlight at another institution.  But, &#8220;special&#8221; and other non-tenure track faculty&#8211;all&#8217;s fair in love and war, right?  (Another reason why it&#8217;s professionally and ethically dubious to try to run a uni on non-tenure track labor.)</p>
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		<title>By: Natalis</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2010/09/20/for-profit-flim-flam/comment-page-1/#comment-715279</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In an ideal world, non-ttt faculty should not be expected &quot;to explain details about the curriculum, answer questions about required coursework for the major, advise students adequately, and provide letters of recommendation or serve as references...&quot; In the real world, instructors, lecturers, and adjunct faculty DO all these things. 

This is not to diminish the underlying truth of Historiann&#039;s statement: industry &quot;best practice&quot; would dictate that only those faculty compensated for these &quot;extras&quot; can be expected to do them. Reality dictates that everyone in the boat has to bail, particularly if one is an at will employee with one&#039;s job perpetually on the line. More importantly, being non-ttt does not deplete goodwill or compassion. If worthy students come to ask for a rec or advising, good faculty members (ttt or no) tend not to turn them away. Universities then capitalize on this goodwill to extract more labor with lower capital outlays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an ideal world, non-ttt faculty should not be expected &#8220;to explain details about the curriculum, answer questions about required coursework for the major, advise students adequately, and provide letters of recommendation or serve as references&#8230;&#8221; In the real world, instructors, lecturers, and adjunct faculty DO all these things. </p>
<p>This is not to diminish the underlying truth of Historiann&#8217;s statement: industry &#8220;best practice&#8221; would dictate that only those faculty compensated for these &#8220;extras&#8221; can be expected to do them. Reality dictates that everyone in the boat has to bail, particularly if one is an at will employee with one&#8217;s job perpetually on the line. More importantly, being non-ttt does not deplete goodwill or compassion. If worthy students come to ask for a rec or advising, good faculty members (ttt or no) tend not to turn them away. Universities then capitalize on this goodwill to extract more labor with lower capital outlays.</p>
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		<title>By: Perpetua</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2010/09/20/for-profit-flim-flam/comment-page-1/#comment-715264</link>
		<dc:creator>Perpetua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this from the article: “When faculty have a full-time position, there’s an expectation from students, parents, taxpayers that they’re fully committed to it,” he says, “not that they’re also working part-time for a for-profit and contributing to that company’s profits.”  I have an idea - how about paying faculty enough money that they don&#039;t NEED a second job?  And he&#039;s clear that he&#039;s talking about tenure-track faculty here, working as he admits (with two job) 70-75 hrs a week.

I completely agree with your points about transparency and faculty, Historiann. I don&#039;t mean to derail the aspect of this issue you want to talk about. I was just so struck by the POV of administrators that &quot;We need transparency so we can punish our full time faculty for needing extra work.&quot;  There&#039;s this bizarre, unintended subtext to it about how miserable it is to be a t-t faculty in some places. And the invocation of the taxpayer&#039;s rights and expectations!  Oy ve!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this from the article: “When faculty have a full-time position, there’s an expectation from students, parents, taxpayers that they’re fully committed to it,” he says, “not that they’re also working part-time for a for-profit and contributing to that company’s profits.”  I have an idea &#8211; how about paying faculty enough money that they don&#8217;t NEED a second job?  And he&#8217;s clear that he&#8217;s talking about tenure-track faculty here, working as he admits (with two job) 70-75 hrs a week.</p>
<p>I completely agree with your points about transparency and faculty, Historiann. I don&#8217;t mean to derail the aspect of this issue you want to talk about. I was just so struck by the POV of administrators that &#8220;We need transparency so we can punish our full time faculty for needing extra work.&#8221;  There&#8217;s this bizarre, unintended subtext to it about how miserable it is to be a t-t faculty in some places. And the invocation of the taxpayer&#8217;s rights and expectations!  Oy ve!</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2010/09/20/for-profit-flim-flam/comment-page-1/#comment-715098</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s NOT!!!

But apparently, university administrators aren&#039;t always thinking with 5 or 10 years&#039; foresight.  To be fair, many of them have to solve budget crises NOW NOW NOW so maybe they don&#039;t have that luxury all of the time.  But still--someone needs to remind them that universities are more than just places where the middle-class earns credentials.  The whole thing relies on a great deal of institutional memory and the goodwill of faculty who have been offered the privilege of tenure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s NOT!!!</p>
<p>But apparently, university administrators aren&#8217;t always thinking with 5 or 10 years&#8217; foresight.  To be fair, many of them have to solve budget crises NOW NOW NOW so maybe they don&#8217;t have that luxury all of the time.  But still&#8211;someone needs to remind them that universities are more than just places where the middle-class earns credentials.  The whole thing relies on a great deal of institutional memory and the goodwill of faculty who have been offered the privilege of tenure.</p>
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		<title>By: truffula</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2010/09/20/for-profit-flim-flam/comment-page-1/#comment-714976</link>
		<dc:creator>truffula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;provide letters of recommendation or serve as references for students who might have graduated a year or two (or six) ago&lt;/i&gt;

Hey, how&#039;s that going to work in the brave new world of online classes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>provide letters of recommendation or serve as references for students who might have graduated a year or two (or six) ago</i></p>
<p>Hey, how&#8217;s that going to work in the brave new world of online classes?</p>
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