Comments on: Violence against dolls and women http://www.historiann.com/2010/06/10/violence-against-dolls-and-women/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Wed, 24 Sep 2014 01:35:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: Vivia http://www.historiann.com/2010/06/10/violence-against-dolls-and-women/comment-page-1/#comment-1589594 Sat, 03 Aug 2013 04:05:21 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=11303#comment-1589594 What a great blog you have! I was a child during the heyday of monster films, Vincent Price, Christopher Lee, and Peter Cushing. My dolls alternated between being vampires and their victims, sacrificed to Satan, or were time traveling history professors. If you ever find a vintage barbie with red ink vampire bites on their necks, it was probably my doll! Raggedy Ann was my fav when it came to sacrificing to Satan. She was perfectly floppy. Andy and Uncle Golli would come to her rescue. LOL!
I still love dolls, and collect them. Occasionally, I still play with them.

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By: MAY http://www.historiann.com/2010/06/10/violence-against-dolls-and-women/comment-page-1/#comment-1476867 Tue, 28 May 2013 14:19:18 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=11303#comment-1476867 I bought my own Barbie with my own money at age 12. The first doll I had was a baby doll until we moved at age 5. We were poor. I had been given dolls until age 12. and a bag of cheap miniture plastic figures formed onto thin plastic base for standing on flat surfaces. When I bought Barbie by myself and on my own, my parents told me that dolls were only for girls and homosexuals. They destroyed it. Their arguments did not have validity with my behavior or gender. I had no sisters. Therefore, I was not influenced by bias. My desire was to be a boyfriend or dad in replication of my gender role. I was attracted to Barbie and not my GI Joe. THAT is a heterosexual and not a homosexual response. It made me become an avid collector. For everyone they destroyed, I bought one or more. I also burned two in my life to prove my masculinity to myself. I threw some out in public places to observe the response of males and females to them. Both sexes destroyed them. The female adults were not as destructive as the males. I never had but three stuffed animals ever. I realized that if I loved them, auch actions were not needed to prove my sexual identity or masculinity. Barbie meant more to me because they cost me my time and money.

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By: dramachick http://www.historiann.com/2010/06/10/violence-against-dolls-and-women/comment-page-1/#comment-1275455 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:07:59 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=11303#comment-1275455 I see no sinister meaning in this. Very young children are the ones who bring their dolls everywhere. Very young children are forgetful and have many other toys to distract them. If they are truly upset by the loss of a toy it is far easier for parents to purchase a new one and either admit that it’s new or pretend the old one has been found.

In my experience stuffed animals are encouraged to be left inside, partly because they get filthy much more easily but also because they mean so much more to the child. Stuffed animals are seen as pets by children whereas dolls are recognized as toys. This is why dolls are constantly evolving, baby dolls gain new features to make them more lifelike while barbies and Bratz get new outfits accessories and dwellings.

A friends mother recently purchased her daughter “Novi Stars”: Dolls that sing, light up, can be taken apart and come in shades of clue and green. (I think they are alien rockstars?) As I grow older grown-up dolls get stranger while baby dolls creep towards the uncanny valley. Stuffed animals however have hardly changed. This is because a doll will not keep a child’s interest long.

Children recognize that these tiny humanoids are merely reproductions of the people they see in the world. No matter how cleverly made they are lifeless hunks of plastic. Stuffed animals on the other hand can easily become “real” As a child I never loved any of my dolls. barbies were kept in a drawer, packed together like human sardines, baby dolls were kept in a toy chest. I took meticulous care of my stuffed animals though, arranging them on shelves so they could all see and breathe.

I would never have dreamed of hurting one of my animals, but because I recognized the dolls as toys I felt quite comfortable treating them any way I wished to. My antics were constricted to haircuts and terrible clothing choices, clothes made out of tissues and toilet paper, or no clothes at all. I had a kitten who saw my barbies as toys and delighted in pulling off their heads. and nibbling at arms and legs. I found this endlessly amusing as a child and would give him my least favorite barbies to play with.

By contrast I also had a dog who would come into my room at night and take any animals that had fallen from the shelves to be his chewtoys. I would find them covered in slobber the next morning sometimes leaking stuffing from small holes. I would angrily scold the dog and wash them off. If there were any injuries I would cry and insist my mother drop what she was doing to sew them up IMMEDIATELY. I treated the animals as though they were bleeding to death in my arms, yet paid no attention to the barbie heads I saw beside them.

I think you would be hard-pressed to find a child who “loved” a certain doll. It is difficult to believe that these humanoids are real, so children do not form the same emotional bonds as they do with stuffed animals. The dolls you find have been treated with carelessness and human curiosity, not malice.

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By: Mudwoman in Virginia? : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present http://www.historiann.com/2010/06/10/violence-against-dolls-and-women/comment-page-1/#comment-1040923 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:19:56 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=11303#comment-1040923 [...] story clearly shows that Oates clearly shares my fascination with creepy dolls and sees them as proxies for female disposibility and worthlessness, [...]

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By: squadratomagico » Blog Archive » a few words on gender politics at bm http://www.historiann.com/2010/06/10/violence-against-dolls-and-women/comment-page-1/#comment-710035 Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:26:38 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=11303#comment-710035 [...] camp dedicated to the festive mutilation, torture, dismemberment, and execution of barbie dolls. Historiann has suggested that violence against female dolls might bear a relationship to fantasies of violence [...]

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By: RequiesCat In Pace : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present http://www.historiann.com/2010/06/10/violence-against-dolls-and-women/comment-page-1/#comment-658633 Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:33:43 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=11303#comment-658633 [...] in the mint pot on the left that looks like it was designed to be a dog’s chew toy, too.  Naked Barbie-like doll, doll in the homemade dress, and creepy doll head are all standing guard over my mint, parsley, sage, catnip, and lavender.  [...]

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By: Western Dave http://www.historiann.com/2010/06/10/violence-against-dolls-and-women/comment-page-1/#comment-642678 Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:49:06 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=11303#comment-642678 Sorry to come back to this so late, but I just remembered why none of my action figures made it the point where they could be passed on to my children (unlike the box labeled “Barbie crap” that started with my wife, went to her sister, then to cousins, and may be coming back to us this summer for my daughter). While I don’t want to divulge details, there were firecrackers involved. And sometimes bottle rockets. Or lighters. Sometimes this had to do with the special effects for the stop motion animation movies my friends and I made in Jr. High. But most of the time not.

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By: Lance http://www.historiann.com/2010/06/10/violence-against-dolls-and-women/comment-page-1/#comment-639453 Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:41:01 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=11303#comment-639453 My daughter (4) has a thing for dolls – whatever that means – and plays with them endlessly, and often while she is by herself. All are dutifully and safely kept. Each day, she stages a different social event, engaging everyone from She-Hulk to Strawberry Shortcake. If she ever lost one, she would be absolutely crushed. Now, if that ever happens, I can tell her that H-Ann, the legendary critic, has a special garden for lost dolls, where they dwell in peace and fulfillment.

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By: Mamie http://www.historiann.com/2010/06/10/violence-against-dolls-and-women/comment-page-1/#comment-639129 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:48:59 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=11303#comment-639129 Clothes. Girl dolls get better clothes. And more abundant and variable clothes. That’s one of the main reasons girl people like girl dolls.

I come from the era when Barbie was slutty-looking, not cheerful and smiling. My mother wouldn’t let us have Barbies because they were “too sexy.” We had Tammy dolls. They didn’t wear heavy eyeliner, and they didn’t have enormous pointy breasts. Which means they didn’t really do justice to the endless stream of Barbie clothes my grandmother (NOT my mother’s mother) sewed and crocheted for us.

I don’t believe Tammy had a boyfriend like Ken. Perhaps she wasn’t wearing enough eyeliner.

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