Comments on: Buh-bye, Snarlin’ Arlen http://www.historiann.com/2010/05/18/buh-bye-snarlin-arlen/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Sun, 21 Sep 2014 01:45:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: RATCONTROLTIPS.COM/TYPES-OF-RATS/ http://www.historiann.com/2010/05/18/buh-bye-snarlin-arlen/comment-page-1/#comment-1719994 Thu, 17 Oct 2013 23:31:15 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=11115#comment-1719994 Today, I went to the beach with my kids. I found a sea shell and gave it to my 4 year old daughter and said “You can hear the ocean if you put this to your ear.” She put the shell to her ear
and screamed. There was a hermit crab inside and it pinched
her ear. She never wants to go back! LoL I know
this is completely off topic but I had to tell someone!

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By: Z http://www.historiann.com/2010/05/18/buh-bye-snarlin-arlen/comment-page-1/#comment-622206 Fri, 21 May 2010 04:36:27 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=11115#comment-622206 Well, as an individual at least I learned from the episode, and I still do watching this tape; Hill was clearer on it than I am many days.

Administrators may not intervene to protect subordinates, but they will use sexual harassment complaints at their convenience to go after their enemies, just as they do corruption charges.

There’s a harasser in my workplace now and my tendency has been to allege to myself that it’s not all that bad. Watching Hill here, I’m less convinced of that.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2010/05/18/buh-bye-snarlin-arlen/comment-page-1/#comment-621868 Thu, 20 May 2010 14:19:53 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=11115#comment-621868 “My institution in particular seemed more aware of sexual harassment, but that only served to heighten their vigiliance in order to create policies that would absolve the university from any responsibility.”

I think THIS is the lesson that was learned back in ’91. Not that it’s wrong to harass or abuse subordinates and/or women, but that institutions need to indemnify themselves. So long as everyone completes their “sexual harassment training” course or workshop, then it’s all good. Administrators will not intervene to protect subordinates.

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By: Clio Bluestocking http://www.historiann.com/2010/05/18/buh-bye-snarlin-arlen/comment-page-1/#comment-621839 Thu, 20 May 2010 13:33:39 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=11115#comment-621839 When Anita Hill was on, I was disgusted at the way she was attacked. I could barely discern who was Democrat and who was Republican, they were all so heinous.

I was terrified – jeez, was it only two years later? — two years later when I was sexually harassed because of the way that she was grilled. I was deathly afraid that, if I said anything about the guy, a similar thing would happen to me. The good thing about the hearings was that it seemed to bring that sort of behavior into the public consciousness as something bad. The bad thing was that the knee-jerk reaction was always to somehow blame the woman (imagine that!). My institution in particular seemed more aware of sexual harassment, but that only served to heighten their vigiliance in order to create policies that would absolve the university from any responsibility.

Today, the students who seem to know about Anita Hill are either old enough to remember or are black women. Unfortunately, some of the younger ones were indoctrinated into the trope of Clarence Thomas as an “acheiver” and therefore to be admired, with Anita Hill’s testimony being dismissed as frivolous. One student even assumed that she was a white woman. This is what they have learned in grade school.

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By: koshem Bos http://www.historiann.com/2010/05/18/buh-bye-snarlin-arlen/comment-page-1/#comment-621539 Thu, 20 May 2010 01:51:40 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=11115#comment-621539 The lynching of Anita Hill was one of the most despicable political events I have watch until it happened. Sadly, lynching, mainly by Republican and in some cases by “liberal,” goes on. Bill Clinton was mentioned above. He wasn’t lynched for a blow job, he was lynched by the Republicans, the media and many “liberal” because he was a Democrat and a centrist one. Gore and Obama also went through the gauntlet.

There are plenty victims and an abundance of culprits.

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By: Emma http://www.historiann.com/2010/05/18/buh-bye-snarlin-arlen/comment-page-1/#comment-621505 Wed, 19 May 2010 23:54:36 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=11115#comment-621505 after all, if he hadn’t have had to testify at his nephew’s rape trial earlier that year about running around without his pants on, he would have been just a wee bit more effective.

Which wouldn’t have stopped any Republicans from effectively attacking somebody else for their unethical behavior. Hell, the Republicans tried to impeach Bill Clinton for getting blow jobs, and I didn’t notice any of them being the slightest bit reticent because they lived in glass houses.

Whatever reason Kennedy didn’t support Anita Hill, I doubt it was embarassment over helping to get his nephew off on a rape charge.

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By: Indyanna http://www.historiann.com/2010/05/18/buh-bye-snarlin-arlen/comment-page-1/#comment-621393 Wed, 19 May 2010 20:32:45 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=11115#comment-621393 It *was* Spencer Coxe! I can see him now, with that mike. As for “Donald,” Philadelphia has had hundreds of multi-brother police families, so it could have been.

Me sorry too, Historiann. Sort of a sidebar, yr honor! :)

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By: katydid13 http://www.historiann.com/2010/05/18/buh-bye-snarlin-arlen/comment-page-1/#comment-621391 Wed, 19 May 2010 20:19:57 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=11115#comment-621391 I was in high school during the Thomas confirmation hearings and I remember being shocked that behavior that would have most likely gotten you detention at my high school was apparently okay in a Supreme Court Justice. It was the beginning of learning what a privileged isolated existence I had led.

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By: rootlesscosmo http://www.historiann.com/2010/05/18/buh-bye-snarlin-arlen/comment-page-1/#comment-621388 Wed, 19 May 2010 19:59:44 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=11115#comment-621388 unless it was a brother–the guy I’m thinking about was Insp. George Fencl

I would take my oath the guy commanding the cops who busted us was Donald and his rank was Lieutenant, but among historians I know better than to defend the reliability of memory, especially at 43 years’ distance.

Was the ACLU guy Spencer Cox?

(Sorry to stray so far off-thread, Historiann.)

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By: Indyanna http://www.historiann.com/2010/05/18/buh-bye-snarlin-arlen/comment-page-1/#comment-621361 Wed, 19 May 2010 17:47:37 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=11115#comment-621361 I was going to ask about Fencl, but I couldn’t remember his name. If he was a Rizzo clone in ’67 (unless it was a brother–the guy I’m thinking about was Insp. George Fencl), he must have made a u-turn after that. Because when I got to town Fencl was seen by the protest community as the only good cop on the Rizzo squad. There was a big mob-up at Independence Plaza in the spring of ’71 and when some shoving broke out I remember this old white-haired ACLU civil libertarian (name also escapes me) grabbing the microphone and shouting out repeatedly “Is George Fencl here? Is George Fencl here?” because he was seen as the only guy on the blue team [although he was a non-uniformed inspector] who would be trusted by the demonstrators. Can’t remember how that episode turned out. But there’s even an annual Fencl citizenship award in Philly now, and the always tough on bad guys, Chuck Stone, I think got it started.

This was a crazy town back when Rizzo’s police cars were painted red!

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