Comments on: Susan Gubar and the FUBAR American uni: or, the mad bitch in the attic tells all http://www.historiann.com/2010/04/25/susan-gubar-and-the-fubar-american-uni-or-the-mad-bitch-in-the-attic-tells-all/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Sat, 20 Sep 2014 17:08:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: quixote http://www.historiann.com/2010/04/25/susan-gubar-and-the-fubar-american-uni-or-the-mad-bitch-in-the-attic-tells-all/comment-page-1/#comment-606268 Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:55:54 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=10730#comment-606268 You know what’s funny about the mania to cut services because nobody has any money? (Not funny as in “haha.” Funny as in “cry.”)

Something over a third of the national budget goes to the military. Say 35%. Another 35% to interest on the debt.

Social Security, Medicare, education, and everything else are supposed to bite chunks out of each other over what’s left.

Why isn’t the big picture even part of the discussion? Why?

(I don’t mean on this blog. I mean in kitchens across the country.)

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By: Indyanna http://www.historiann.com/2010/04/25/susan-gubar-and-the-fubar-american-uni-or-the-mad-bitch-in-the-attic-tells-all/comment-page-1/#comment-605868 Mon, 26 Apr 2010 00:37:33 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=10730#comment-605868 @Moose/Roxie, it’s comforting in a way to know that somebody else on this list knows a time when they “never even heard of Mary Wollstonecraft.” Ignorance is/was not bliss in that regard, and I can still recall the moment of my enlightenment–in graduate school, but it at least fuels the drive to play some catch-up.

On the FTE-spouting colleagues over in Hoodumpler Hall: The war is over when the academics start talking in the tongues of acronymia and other forms of administrivia. Such as “….on the other hand, if we DO do this, maybe we can get a little more ESF money from the UWEC.” The acronym is the trojan horse of the adminisphere, or the neutron bomb. I think Historiann is right when she predicts this former scholar is on the way to the admin-bin. Does anybody remember the “Reagan Pod” episode on Saturday Night Live, c. 1980/1981? Is that on YouTube yet?

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By: Janice http://www.historiann.com/2010/04/25/susan-gubar-and-the-fubar-american-uni-or-the-mad-bitch-in-the-attic-tells-all/comment-page-1/#comment-605867 Mon, 26 Apr 2010 00:36:29 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=10730#comment-605867 Oooo, what an inspiring and painful story in the link. Thanks for pointing it out to me!

We’ve changed our degree requirements so that students are no longer required to complete 36 credits of a 120-credit degree in senior seminar or equivalent (i.e. honours thesis) work. They take 18 credits at the senior level or three seminar-equivalents.

This has allowed us to reduce the size of senior seminars to something manageable (I taught my first-ever seminar with fewer than twenty students this past year!). The kicker is that’s pushed the enrolment elsewhere so that my sophomore-level survey hit 135 before we closed enrolment there. And while we don’t have a lot of adjunct faculty (yet!), students also bleed off into the distance-ed courses which isn’t desirable as a major part of their program.

With regards to the psychologist that Susan mentions, I’ve heard that attitude before coming from colleagues in other disciplines who don’t understand why we can’t convert more of our courses to huge lecture surveys. These often are the same colleagues who have the gall to complain about how bad their students are at writing when they actually start fielding large amounts of prose at the senior or graduate levels.

On the other hand, when I look at the numbers (and I do get into the data for the entire institution since I have a login for our IR datamart), I see that we beat these “high-performing” departments hands-down in overall enrolments to course offerings, in FTEs/faculty members and so on. So I’m not too impressed by their posturing and bullying about how they do so much more for the university. Only if you interpret the numbers in their preferred fashion!

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2010/04/25/susan-gubar-and-the-fubar-american-uni-or-the-mad-bitch-in-the-attic-tells-all/comment-page-1/#comment-605767 Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:23:23 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=10730#comment-605767 Susan–that’s such an interesting insight into the (possible) differences between us in the humanities versus people in other fields. I suppose your psychology colleague’s comment makes sense only if you don’t consider what it is exactly we mean to teach, or how effective we might be in our teaching.

According to hir logic, then, it’s possible to teach an infinitely humongous class with unlimited numbers of students, and that’s just as effective as teaching 20 or 30 students in a class. Wowie.

(Something tells me your colleague will have a smooth transition to administration!)

Matt, I take your point about administrators–I’m sure Roxie & Moose might, too. I think you make a great point about the citizenry in general, and their responsibility for our current predicament.

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By: Susan http://www.historiann.com/2010/04/25/susan-gubar-and-the-fubar-american-uni-or-the-mad-bitch-in-the-attic-tells-all/comment-page-1/#comment-605750 Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:23:24 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=10730#comment-605750 In arguing about FTE allocations, a psychology colleague basically said to me that if historians and lit people wanted to waste their FTEs on small classes, we shouldn’t get additional allocations of faculty….

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By: Matt L http://www.historiann.com/2010/04/25/susan-gubar-and-the-fubar-american-uni-or-the-mad-bitch-in-the-attic-tells-all/comment-page-1/#comment-605703 Sun, 25 Apr 2010 19:36:24 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=10730#comment-605703 yes, damnit, thats right. A great post by Roxie and all too true. At Woebegone State U. all the history majors still have to take senior seminar. But I am sure the administration would be glad to get rid of it.

Frankly, at a state school, however, I have a hard time blaming administration (completely). At the end of the day, if citizens don’t want to pay taxes, then you have to have to give up services, like college for everyone, roads, bridges, a social safety-net, etc. And not that many people seem willing to pay those kinds of taxes.

Neither is the state government willing to let us raise standards and kick out slackers to make room for students with better prospects. High standards, High enrollment, or High Retention (pick two).

Best of luck grading Historiann.

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By: Roxie http://www.historiann.com/2010/04/25/susan-gubar-and-the-fubar-american-uni-or-the-mad-bitch-in-the-attic-tells-all/comment-page-1/#comment-605694 Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:50:56 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=10730#comment-605694 I rage therefore I am, girlfriend. Thanks for the shout-out. Hope you had a most excellent run. Sorry about that stack of research papers, but how hard can it be? Don’t you just tell students to download something from Wikipedia that feels more or less accurate??? No more 700-mile drives to the library these days, eh?

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