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	<title>Comments on: At your service:  all of the responsibility, none of the authority?</title>
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		<title>By: Grandoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grandoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many years ago I served a two year stint as Chief of our hospital medical staff. Of course, as soon as I finished, a stipend was awarded to the next Chief. My least enjoyed service job was to temporarily suspend doctors ( they then couldn&#039;t admit ) for failure to dictate discharge summaries in a timely fashion - despite their pleas of dying grandparents or prolonged laryngitis. My secretaries would blush while listening to the invective shouted over the phone by the irate physicians demanding justice. The best part of this unpaid job was that I got to divert surplus dues to my favorite clinic in Haiti - telling the staff only after the fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many years ago I served a two year stint as Chief of our hospital medical staff. Of course, as soon as I finished, a stipend was awarded to the next Chief. My least enjoyed service job was to temporarily suspend doctors ( they then couldn&#8217;t admit ) for failure to dictate discharge summaries in a timely fashion &#8211; despite their pleas of dying grandparents or prolonged laryngitis. My secretaries would blush while listening to the invective shouted over the phone by the irate physicians demanding justice. The best part of this unpaid job was that I got to divert surplus dues to my favorite clinic in Haiti &#8211; telling the staff only after the fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy service where I feel something is being done, and that I&#039;m working with people.  Historians, by and large, work in solitary ways, so this is a nice change.  

Bad service= any committee with a disorganized chair, who forgets that his role as chair is to serve the committee, not just himself.  ARGGGGHHH.  I am currently on a committee (one of the few I don&#039;t chair) whose chair wants ME to do the work to serve him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy service where I feel something is being done, and that I&#8217;m working with people.  Historians, by and large, work in solitary ways, so this is a nice change.  </p>
<p>Bad service= any committee with a disorganized chair, who forgets that his role as chair is to serve the committee, not just himself.  ARGGGGHHH.  I am currently on a committee (one of the few I don&#8217;t chair) whose chair wants ME to do the work to serve him.</p>
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		<title>By: Rad Readr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rad Readr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weirdest Service: At my first job we had a journalism program within English, and I was on the journalism committee. Two retired and cranky journalists actually called each other out of the room -- &quot;You want a piece of me?&quot; More importantly, one of these guys was tremendously talented at filibustering and that&#039;s where I learned that one way to stop something from happening is to stall with unanswerable questions and endless objections.

Worst service: a three-day junket to a nice city, stayed in a suite, and spent endless hours in meetings and going to seminars considering how to bring diversity to one of the hwcu&#039;s (historically white colleges and universitites). Losing proposition.

Enjoyable service: today I spent a couple of hours as a respondent to some excellent papers by graduate students in a workshop. The papers were by a historian, an anthropologist and a theorist, and we had a lively discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weirdest Service: At my first job we had a journalism program within English, and I was on the journalism committee. Two retired and cranky journalists actually called each other out of the room &#8212; &#8220;You want a piece of me?&#8221; More importantly, one of these guys was tremendously talented at filibustering and that&#8217;s where I learned that one way to stop something from happening is to stall with unanswerable questions and endless objections.</p>
<p>Worst service: a three-day junket to a nice city, stayed in a suite, and spent endless hours in meetings and going to seminars considering how to bring diversity to one of the hwcu&#8217;s (historically white colleges and universitites). Losing proposition.</p>
<p>Enjoyable service: today I spent a couple of hours as a respondent to some excellent papers by graduate students in a workshop. The papers were by a historian, an anthropologist and a theorist, and we had a lively discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Sisyphus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sisyphus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have any good committee stories but my favorite one to hear is of one of our dept&#039;s female professors, I think the first, or one of the first, to be hired here. 

Not too long ago she was on the campus&#039;s architecture and building committee, and they were approving the final blueprints for the new engineering building. She&#039;s staring at the prints, not really listening to the architect&#039;s presentation, and something doesn&#039;t feel right. Suddenly she has the realization: nothing in the whole building is labeled as a woman&#039;s bathroom! 

Not only had none of the other faculty thought to check on this in the however many years the plans had been going through the process, but the designer guy, when called on it, pretty clearly assumed that there wasn&#039;t going to be any need for them since it was an *engineering* building. F*cker.

Unfortunately, I just heard that our campus&#039;s new student services building had had a lactation room, marked &quot;pump room,&quot; on the blueprint, and that the construction people installed all the water and airconditioning pumps in there. In the middle of the women&#039;s center. Gah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have any good committee stories but my favorite one to hear is of one of our dept&#8217;s female professors, I think the first, or one of the first, to be hired here. </p>
<p>Not too long ago she was on the campus&#8217;s architecture and building committee, and they were approving the final blueprints for the new engineering building. She&#8217;s staring at the prints, not really listening to the architect&#8217;s presentation, and something doesn&#8217;t feel right. Suddenly she has the realization: nothing in the whole building is labeled as a woman&#8217;s bathroom! </p>
<p>Not only had none of the other faculty thought to check on this in the however many years the plans had been going through the process, but the designer guy, when called on it, pretty clearly assumed that there wasn&#8217;t going to be any need for them since it was an *engineering* building. F*cker.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I just heard that our campus&#8217;s new student services building had had a lactation room, marked &#8220;pump room,&#8221; on the blueprint, and that the construction people installed all the water and airconditioning pumps in there. In the middle of the women&#8217;s center. Gah!</p>
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		<title>By: Janice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t say that there&#039;s any one particular standout bad experience, though several very annoying ones made so mostly by a clash of personalities or a sense of hopelessness (serving on the website design committee to have our advice ignored; serving on the computer providers&#039; tendering committee only to be unable to attend the last meeting and actually, you know, get a voice in the outcome).

Squadratomagico, I hear you about graduate studies only I found the way to become a part of a graduate program where I have very few students (three over almost twenty years) has been to become integrated into the administration of the same. You don&#039;t have to be a graduate supervisor on a regular basis to run the program. The flipside is that it can begin to become &quot;your job&quot; and you spend eleven of the last fifteen years in that position. Bah. I&#039;m tired and stepping down and I only hope that my colleagues have my replacement lined up because I&#039;m sure not doing it again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say that there&#8217;s any one particular standout bad experience, though several very annoying ones made so mostly by a clash of personalities or a sense of hopelessness (serving on the website design committee to have our advice ignored; serving on the computer providers&#8217; tendering committee only to be unable to attend the last meeting and actually, you know, get a voice in the outcome).</p>
<p>Squadratomagico, I hear you about graduate studies only I found the way to become a part of a graduate program where I have very few students (three over almost twenty years) has been to become integrated into the administration of the same. You don&#8217;t have to be a graduate supervisor on a regular basis to run the program. The flipside is that it can begin to become &#8220;your job&#8221; and you spend eleven of the last fifteen years in that position. Bah. I&#8217;m tired and stepping down and I only hope that my colleagues have my replacement lined up because I&#8217;m sure not doing it again!</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true!  But, even if not everyone partakes, it changes the dynamic of a meeting sometimes.  (Not always.)  It conveys a sense of hospitality that can be charming.  (Most of the time.)

Sorry to have been checked out today--great suggestions and ideas in the comments.  And, maybe it&#039;s unsurprising, but it sounds like most of you take service pretty seriously.  (That is, you all thought about these issues long before my post here today, even if it&#039;s the first time you&#039;ve commented on a blog about it.)

Another idea from the comments over at Bardiac&#039;s I forgot to mention:  transparency.  Be sure everyone knows what everyone else is doing, and that will leave fewer corners for the shirkers to scurry into.  Plus, the people who are doing the work will appreciate the acknowledgement.  So:  leadership is transparency, carrots not non-existent sticks, efficiency in running meetings, and &quot;free fracking food!&quot;  

I&#039;d like to discuss kw&#039;s comment way up above about the fact that &lt;i&gt;&quot;[s]ervice, one quickly learns, is the cement of academic culture. It’s vital, and it can sink you.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;  (At least, I acknowledge this as a fact.)  Also, LadyProf&#039;s comment about the gendering of service, and even the different kinds of service expected of men and women.  Personally, I think there are a lot more Senior women who could afford to say &quot;no&quot; more often--but that may be naive of me.  Tenured women can&#039;t be fired, but they can be denied other goodies and consideration, like reasonable teaching assignments and schedules, research funding, promotion to Full, etc.  They may also be disinclined to give up something they know they do well and which is appreciated, in favor of something (like writing grant proposals and submitting articles and manuscripts for publication) that is riskier, but ultimately more rewarding.  

kw&#039;s current department, which sounds like it&#039;s full of good citizens, sounds ideal--but how do you create a department like that, especially if you&#039;re working with a faction of shirkers who won&#039;t let you?  As I have said here before, it seems a lot easier to trash a good department, than it is to un-trash a crappy one.  (Along the lines of the fact that it&#039;s a lot more difficult to un$h!t the bed. . .)

Does anyone have the magic formula?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true!  But, even if not everyone partakes, it changes the dynamic of a meeting sometimes.  (Not always.)  It conveys a sense of hospitality that can be charming.  (Most of the time.)</p>
<p>Sorry to have been checked out today&#8211;great suggestions and ideas in the comments.  And, maybe it&#8217;s unsurprising, but it sounds like most of you take service pretty seriously.  (That is, you all thought about these issues long before my post here today, even if it&#8217;s the first time you&#8217;ve commented on a blog about it.)</p>
<p>Another idea from the comments over at Bardiac&#8217;s I forgot to mention:  transparency.  Be sure everyone knows what everyone else is doing, and that will leave fewer corners for the shirkers to scurry into.  Plus, the people who are doing the work will appreciate the acknowledgement.  So:  leadership is transparency, carrots not non-existent sticks, efficiency in running meetings, and &#8220;free fracking food!&#8221;  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to discuss kw&#8217;s comment way up above about the fact that <i>&#8220;[s]ervice, one quickly learns, is the cement of academic culture. It’s vital, and it can sink you.&#8221;</i>  (At least, I acknowledge this as a fact.)  Also, LadyProf&#8217;s comment about the gendering of service, and even the different kinds of service expected of men and women.  Personally, I think there are a lot more Senior women who could afford to say &#8220;no&#8221; more often&#8211;but that may be naive of me.  Tenured women can&#8217;t be fired, but they can be denied other goodies and consideration, like reasonable teaching assignments and schedules, research funding, promotion to Full, etc.  They may also be disinclined to give up something they know they do well and which is appreciated, in favor of something (like writing grant proposals and submitting articles and manuscripts for publication) that is riskier, but ultimately more rewarding.  </p>
<p>kw&#8217;s current department, which sounds like it&#8217;s full of good citizens, sounds ideal&#8211;but how do you create a department like that, especially if you&#8217;re working with a faction of shirkers who won&#8217;t let you?  As I have said here before, it seems a lot easier to trash a good department, than it is to un-trash a crappy one.  (Along the lines of the fact that it&#8217;s a lot more difficult to un$h!t the bed. . .)</p>
<p>Does anyone have the magic formula?</p>
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		<title>By: Comrade PhysioProf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comrade PhysioProf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everybody loves free fucking food!</description>
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		<title>By: Indyanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indyanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ultimate state of academic &quot;beyond&quot; is called &quot;OMM.&quot;  You stop eating, so you&#039;re completely beyond cajolery(?), and certainly by carrot. A publisher may get to you now and then by offering to send totally free exam copies instead of the *new* &quot;free,&quot; which is something like $6. But most people can deal with this, and reading exam copies is not really service anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ultimate state of academic &#8220;beyond&#8221; is called &#8220;OMM.&#8221;  You stop eating, so you&#8217;re completely beyond cajolery(?), and certainly by carrot. A publisher may get to you now and then by offering to send totally free exam copies instead of the *new* &#8220;free,&#8221; which is something like $6. But most people can deal with this, and reading exam copies is not really service anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: perpetua</title>
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		<dc:creator>perpetua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS CPP&#039;s comment made me giggle - the whole idea that we&#039;re years and years beyond grad school and yet the category &quot;free food&quot; still exists as a legitimate unit of self-interest to be leveraged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS CPP&#8217;s comment made me giggle &#8211; the whole idea that we&#8217;re years and years beyond grad school and yet the category &#8220;free food&#8221; still exists as a legitimate unit of self-interest to be leveraged.</p>
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		<title>By: perpetua</title>
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		<dc:creator>perpetua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will shyly admit to only having positive service experiences.  I&#039;ve been appointed to a range, from the dept committee that dealt with the issue of &quot;merit pay&quot; during a raise year (every time there&#039;s a raise at the large state uni, everyone goes into the merit pay pool and the dept has to decide how to dole out everyone&#039;s money), to a university committee that decided summer research funding, to a search committee.  I&#039;ve enjoyed all of these for different reasons - but generally I was lucky because they were almost all very *well run*.  In addition, as the always-junior person on the committee, I&#039;ve had little responsibility (except to be present, read the materials, and voice my opinion occasionally).  None of these experiences, with one exception, was contentious - the committees were unfailingly professional and collegial.  The exception was the second year of the summer research committee; the previous year it had been extremely well run by the administrator in charge of the program with many years&#039; experience keeping the faculty-sheep on task and focused.  The next year it was poorly run by a newbie who had no idea what ze was doing and was quickly outtalked by a couple of unbelievably opinionated faculty members who insisted on derailing the meeting for endless pointless discussions of nothing.  (I made myself *very* unpopular at this meeting by repeatedly attempting to streamline and speed up the process.)  I have been put on notice that next year I might be on the graduate committee, which should also be interesting, but possibly more tedious and time-consuming that the others.  I know I have a bit of the naive shining light of the relative newcomer (and an untenured person sheltered from the more serious burdens of service work), but I like service work - I like meeting new faculty members and understanding better how the university works.  I like participating in truffula&#039;s drip drip drip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will shyly admit to only having positive service experiences.  I&#8217;ve been appointed to a range, from the dept committee that dealt with the issue of &#8220;merit pay&#8221; during a raise year (every time there&#8217;s a raise at the large state uni, everyone goes into the merit pay pool and the dept has to decide how to dole out everyone&#8217;s money), to a university committee that decided summer research funding, to a search committee.  I&#8217;ve enjoyed all of these for different reasons &#8211; but generally I was lucky because they were almost all very *well run*.  In addition, as the always-junior person on the committee, I&#8217;ve had little responsibility (except to be present, read the materials, and voice my opinion occasionally).  None of these experiences, with one exception, was contentious &#8211; the committees were unfailingly professional and collegial.  The exception was the second year of the summer research committee; the previous year it had been extremely well run by the administrator in charge of the program with many years&#8217; experience keeping the faculty-sheep on task and focused.  The next year it was poorly run by a newbie who had no idea what ze was doing and was quickly outtalked by a couple of unbelievably opinionated faculty members who insisted on derailing the meeting for endless pointless discussions of nothing.  (I made myself *very* unpopular at this meeting by repeatedly attempting to streamline and speed up the process.)  I have been put on notice that next year I might be on the graduate committee, which should also be interesting, but possibly more tedious and time-consuming that the others.  I know I have a bit of the naive shining light of the relative newcomer (and an untenured person sheltered from the more serious burdens of service work), but I like service work &#8211; I like meeting new faculty members and understanding better how the university works.  I like participating in truffula&#8217;s drip drip drip.</p>
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