Comments on: Sunny daze is here again? http://www.historiann.com/2010/03/08/sunny-daze-is-here-again/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Sat, 20 Sep 2014 07:56:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: dandelion http://www.historiann.com/2010/03/08/sunny-daze-is-here-again/comment-page-1/#comment-572242 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:05:30 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9892#comment-572242 Emma — that would be great. I’d like most of the liberal blogosphere to line up on their kneepads and take their turns, too. Speaking right now of everyone at TPM railing at Dennis Kucinich for possibly standing in the way of the Greatest Progressive Victory in 60 Years Health Care Reform Act to Save the Obama Presidency — because jeez of course the last thing the liberal blogosphere can tolerate is a member of congress arguing from principle.

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By: Emma http://www.historiann.com/2010/03/08/sunny-daze-is-here-again/comment-page-1/#comment-571957 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:11:05 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9892#comment-571957 I always felt that the most productive thing the Obama syncophants could do, including Axelrove, was simply get down on their knees and give him the blow job they obviously believe he deserves. Then maybe they could get over themselves and their moony-eyed love for him and the WH could move on to governing the country.

Blow him already!

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2010/03/08/sunny-daze-is-here-again/comment-page-1/#comment-571956 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:06:44 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9892#comment-571956 Don’t be a stranger in the comments, BEW. (Especially when I make such boneheaded errors as the one you noted above!)

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By: BEW http://www.historiann.com/2010/03/08/sunny-daze-is-here-again/comment-page-1/#comment-571952 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:55:40 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9892#comment-571952 Historiann

I am the same BEW as in 2008. I stop by everyday to read your blog and the comments.

My worry about Obama was that he would be the Eisenhower of the left. He would have a great chance to roll back Reaganism, far more of a chance than Bill Clinton, and he wouldn’t do it.

Oh well, what a disappointment!

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By: KC http://www.historiann.com/2010/03/08/sunny-daze-is-here-again/comment-page-1/#comment-571909 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:03:14 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9892#comment-571909 At this point, my measuring stick for Obama’s effectiveness in his first two years in office is just going to be whether his new plan for getting health care reform passed works, and whether he gets DADT repealed this year. If he does those things, I’ll chalk up 2009 to a learning curve year and hope for the best for the rest of his term.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2010/03/08/sunny-daze-is-here-again/comment-page-1/#comment-571627 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:33:34 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9892#comment-571627 Heh. As an English friend of mine used to say, “pull me ovver leg–it’s got bells on it!”

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By: Comrade PhysioProf http://www.historiann.com/2010/03/08/sunny-daze-is-here-again/comment-page-1/#comment-571577 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:57:53 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9892#comment-571577 You are so naive. Axelrod saying all this stuff and all the stuff being said about Emmanuel is all part of the master plan. Just because this level of quadruple reverse political jiujitsu is over your head, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. Just you wait and see. It’s only a matter of time before all those Republicans are begging Obama to stop punishing them.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2010/03/08/sunny-daze-is-here-again/comment-page-1/#comment-571566 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:37:37 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9892#comment-571566 KC–good point here: “So, what is the goal? To get re-elected? Bush achieved that, and he’s one of the worst presidents ever.” True enough.

I just think that complaining like this–and calling on your sister to say nice things about you (because your mother was too busy, or otherwise unavailable?)–looks weak. And weakness is not what Obama needs. Say what you will about Karl Rove: he truly didn’t give a “flying frack” about what people thought about him. (Or even about winning the 24-hour news cycle, when governing.) He cared about winning.

I don’t care about Obama’s fate. (I used to care about Democrats winning, but since they’ve proved themselves so incompetent lately I don’t think I even care about that.) I still care about whether or not the U.S. is governed effectively and well.

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By: KC http://www.historiann.com/2010/03/08/sunny-daze-is-here-again/comment-page-1/#comment-571560 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:22:59 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9892#comment-571560 I will say that the 24-hour cable news cycle has really changed Washington for the worse. Perspective gets lost, everything becomes a story about who won the day politically, etc. Of course, this ties in with the decline of journalism in general. But I honestly don’t know what a “pragmatist” would do that would be so much better in the current climate, other than win some news cycles, which is ultimately meaningless unless it achieves some higher purpose.

So, what is the goal? To get re-elected? Bush achieved that, and he’s one of the worst presidents ever. He also passed some big pieces of legislation and started major wars and they were all really bad, but he managed to win a few news cycles here and there, until the bad news from, you know, the real world, started piling up and piling up and then by 2005 it all imploded on him and everyone realized he really was one of the worst presidents ever and that was that.

I find Axelrod’s “bitchfest” to be a justifiable response to an era of Rovian politics. Maybe an overreaction, but refreshing in its own way. But yeah, the hero-worship needs to be put to the curb, although every president has had his overzealous defenders within his inner circle.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2010/03/08/sunny-daze-is-here-again/comment-page-1/#comment-571351 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:16:03 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9892#comment-571351 Roxie–happy anniversary! I’ll go check it out.

Janice: exactly. Everyone else is harshing our buzz–why don’t they just get on the bandwagon! We don’t have any responsibility to lead, or to be effective. . .

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