Comments on: Historiann exclusive: Our Holiday Murder http://www.historiann.com/2010/01/12/historiann-exclusive-our-holiday-murder/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:41:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: Our Holiday Murder | matthew pratt guterl http://www.historiann.com/2010/01/12/historiann-exclusive-our-holiday-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-1906783 Fri, 17 Jan 2014 21:03:02 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9187#comment-1906783 […] piece was originally posted on Historiann’s website as “Our Holiday Murder“. ¬†Given that it was written in the days that followed Don’s death, when so much was […]

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By: Recent columns/posts | Justice for Don Belton http://www.historiann.com/2010/01/12/historiann-exclusive-our-holiday-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-1813616 Sat, 30 Nov 2013 05:30:43 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9187#comment-1813616 […] there is a piece at historiann.com that discusses the response to Don’s death, the nuances that get lost in such responses, and […]

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By: Drew http://www.historiann.com/2010/01/12/historiann-exclusive-our-holiday-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-533231 Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:51:48 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9187#comment-533231 As “Josh” suggests, counseling may also be required for those both inside and outside IU who simply don’t care. It’s interesting to pause at the subtleties of homophobia worked out in scraps and pieces of comments.

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By: Josh http://www.historiann.com/2010/01/12/historiann-exclusive-our-holiday-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-530980 Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:46:53 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9187#comment-530980 The prose of this piece is too bathetic and murky for me to be sure, but the final clause, ending with “justice has already been delivered to Belton,” seems to suggest that everyone outside of IU wants to see gay people die. If “Lance” believes that to be true, I would suggest counseling.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2010/01/12/historiann-exclusive-our-holiday-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-530763 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:32:00 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9187#comment-530763 Lance, thanks for the update. The comments over there are a microcosm of what you write about here: how everyone starts spinning their own narrative about “what really happened” based not on the facts, but on what they think they “know.” (Example: someone wonders why he was just an Assistant Prof. at age 53, another commenter wonders why an “intelligent gay man” might make a pass at a man with a girlfriend, etc.) Everybody tells the story they want to hear to themselves.

As to the thread itself: it’s less hateful than most of the comments threads over there on gender/sexuality/race issues. (But that ain’t saying much, and the day is young, right?)

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By: Lance http://www.historiann.com/2010/01/12/historiann-exclusive-our-holiday-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-530678 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:26:06 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9187#comment-530678 There is a new story up at Inside Higher Ed on this subject, and the comments there are – as usual – varied.

http://www.insidehighered.com/views/mclemee/mclemee272

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By: Comrade PhysioProf http://www.historiann.com/2010/01/12/historiann-exclusive-our-holiday-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-530528 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:40:33 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9187#comment-530528 Absolutely horrible. Words fail.

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By: truffula http://www.historiann.com/2010/01/12/historiann-exclusive-our-holiday-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-530339 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 06:31:51 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9187#comment-530339 Late to the story, it’s been a long day with shockingly young undergraduates. I am struck by the intimacy and the heartbreak, for all involved, of the scene. Thanks to Lance and Historiann for giving the story some room to breathe.

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By: Lance http://www.historiann.com/2010/01/12/historiann-exclusive-our-holiday-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-530258 Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:11:24 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9187#comment-530258 I should thank Historiann, too. She was very kind to encourage this, but then we expect that from her.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2010/01/12/historiann-exclusive-our-holiday-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-530152 Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:25:20 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=9187#comment-530152 Thanks, Shane and Roxie.

I liked Lance’s description of how in a small town (or company town, as all college towns are), everyone has a connection either to the victim, or the perp, or to both, and how everyone thinks they’ve got a piece of the story. Having once lived in a college town, I can well understand how everyone wants to participate in writing the narrative and assessing its meaning(s).

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