Comments on: Howard Dean: harshing that Village of Oz buzz http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/17/howard-dean-harshing-that-village-of-oz-buzz/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:41:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: Z http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/17/howard-dean-harshing-that-village-of-oz-buzz/comment-page-1/#comment-515817 Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:30:56 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8774#comment-515817 Voting: You don’t have to vote right wing to vote against the Democrats. There’s Green, Peace and Freedom, even Socialist Workers if you don’t have other lefty options in your state. I usually vote 3d party but it really makes Clinton people scream; I had someone voting on my tenure and screaming at me the same day because I wouldn’t wear a Clinton bumper sticker on my car.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/17/howard-dean-harshing-that-village-of-oz-buzz/comment-page-1/#comment-514676 Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:48:36 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8774#comment-514676 As for voting: living out West, there’s always some crazy-ass party running some crazy-assed candidate (i.e. the U.S. Constitution party, etc.)–I’m sure it’s totally right-wing, but it might be a good place to cast a protest vote until the National Women’s Party is revived. (I don’t know how to do write-in candidates with those creepy electronic voting machines…)

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By: Emma http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/17/howard-dean-harshing-that-village-of-oz-buzz/comment-page-1/#comment-514566 Sun, 20 Dec 2009 20:27:28 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8774#comment-514566 If our lack of support wasn’t crucial at the beginning, it’s sure as hell not crucial now.

Amen.

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By: Emma http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/17/howard-dean-harshing-that-village-of-oz-buzz/comment-page-1/#comment-514565 Sun, 20 Dec 2009 20:26:11 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8774#comment-514565 Time to start voting against the Dems, friends.

I’m with you. I don’t think I’ll vote Republican but, hey, maybe I really should start voting my pocketbook. Since I won’t get equality, maybe I should grab everything else I can get.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/17/howard-dean-harshing-that-village-of-oz-buzz/comment-page-1/#comment-514457 Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:43:59 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8774#comment-514457 “If a woman’s marked by the state for wanting an abortion, let the man be marked for causing it.

Yes, exactly. But: we all know that’s never gonna happen! Time to start voting against the Dems, friends.

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By: cgeye http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/17/howard-dean-harshing-that-village-of-oz-buzz/comment-page-1/#comment-514450 Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:07:43 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8774#comment-514450 um, *statute*.

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By: cgeye http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/17/howard-dean-harshing-that-village-of-oz-buzz/comment-page-1/#comment-514449 Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:07:03 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8774#comment-514449 And wake me up once this punitive ball of coverage excludes men’s coverage of Viagra, penile implants, vacuum devices, venereal disease management for married men, and impotence treatment once at least 2 children have been fathered during the man’s lifetime.

Also, it would be nice that every punitive abortion reporting statue does the same contact tracing for baby daddies as those infected with HIV — and make child support non-optional. If a woman’s marked by the state for wanting an abortion, let the man be marked for causing it.

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By: cgeye http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/17/howard-dean-harshing-that-village-of-oz-buzz/comment-page-1/#comment-514446 Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:58:45 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8774#comment-514446 Dear Amy:
“I’m just a lowly political scientist, but I have to say that this is the darned silliest thing I’ve read today.”

Nope. Saying this opportunity’s all or nothing’s the same trap Clinton fell for.

They can fix this bill in reconciliation; they can strengthen it, dare the Reps to filibuster, and at last sucessfully use the nuclear option against it. They can start over just in time for the 2010 elections, and instead of being idiots who can’t campaign on a bill that won’t start anything good until 2014, they can do it right and strengthen the Democratic control of Congress.

And don’t you fucking dare pull that “you progressives support a shitty bill with a IRS-as-cop mandate that will guarantee Republican control of Congress in 2010, or I’ll shoot this baby” crap. The public option was a vague promise this summer, and the particulars evaporated as quickly as they were conjured up, and the cost of whatever crumbs we get is women’s healthcare legislated to the standards of the strictest anti-abortion state. If our lack of support wasn’t crucial at the beginning, it’s sure as hell not crucial now. The health insurance companies don’t need me, and they’re paying the bill for this push every step of the way.

Public opinion favors single payer or at least expanded Medicare, and Obama discarding those tidbits for the usual suspects is what will cost lives and the 2010 elections.

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By: Emma http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/17/howard-dean-harshing-that-village-of-oz-buzz/comment-page-1/#comment-514074 Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:13:33 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8774#comment-514074 My point: I’m for choice and pro women’s rights and reproductive health rights, but I wouldn’t turn down insurance that covered accidents and cancer just because it didn’t cover abortion.

Hey, I can live without abortion coverage, too. After all, I’m a lesbian who is never going to get pregnant. I can also live without insurance that covers maternity costs, regular ob/gyn care, birth control, emergency birth control, regular mammograms, and treatment for sexual dysnfunction. So, if I can live without it, I guess you’re going to have to live without it, too. Is that how it works? Hell, my insurance would be a LOT cheaper if it didn’t cover all that stuff that reproducers do. So, I think we should make sure that all that maternity related stuff is optional, too. After all, not everybody needs it and lots of people would take the insurance anyway.

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By: Emma http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/17/howard-dean-harshing-that-village-of-oz-buzz/comment-page-1/#comment-514069 Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:04:50 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8774#comment-514069 Relax everybody! Chill out! They only sold out women. We can live with that!

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