Comments on: Tiger Woods: Who cares? http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/14/tiger-woods-who-cares/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Mon, 22 Sep 2014 04:23:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: maude http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/14/tiger-woods-who-cares/comment-page-1/#comment-512259 Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:18:51 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8748#comment-512259 Hmmmm, I’m hesitant to bring this up, and not because I don’t think Tiger’s a douche (he is, and a moron at that to think this would never hit the fan), but I have to wonder, too, about the women as well. I mean, some whose affairs with Woods ended five years ago are getting press, money for interviews (I imagine) for their stories on the Today Show, etc. I mean, on the one hand I can see “oh, yeah, empowerment woman, get what you deserve out of this for being used as a sex toy or whatever,” but I think there’s something at least almost as equally as sleezy as coming out and cashing in on this five, six years after the fact. Again, not an apology for Woods, but when the women are getting celebrated and their moments of fame (what was up with the one woman–”I didn’t even get a birthday card!” Uh, yeah, you were sleeping with a married man! Married men always tell their mistresses they love them. Puhleeze!) for sleeping with a married man. I don’t feel bad for him at all. And I don’t really feel bad for the women either. I know I kind of took the conversation away from the intellectual track it was on, but I am really curious about people’s take on these women.

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By: cgeye http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/14/tiger-woods-who-cares/comment-page-1/#comment-512120 Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:04:23 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8748#comment-512120 Um, this court of public opinion has decided to judge Tiger on his manliness, instead of considering the proper victims here: His family.

Due to his loss of earning potential, (and, yeah, going from billions to millions is kinda harsh), their futures are changed. The only concern I have is that Mrs. Woods either gets empowered enough to say the magic word “HALF” or to secure expert counsel to make her renegotiated prenup a thing of beauty.

Since all y’all are cosmopolitan enough to let the liege lord get his rights-of-visitation on in any upscale club able to provide him with an attractive female pimp, you should be grownups enough to care whether this man exposed his wife to more than the hazards of public humiliation.

Everyone keeps score on the broads, but no one examines how his lack of care (through not having a smaller circle of mistresses, or screened and medically-monitored professional sex workers) was a sign of contempt toward his wife. Sure, he can step out on the side (AS CAN SHE — look how silent the room got), but if he’s in an environment where that’s expected of real he-men, you’d think his peers would have done a better job of teaching him how to minimize the damage.

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By: D http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/14/tiger-woods-who-cares/comment-page-1/#comment-511667 Wed, 16 Dec 2009 04:05:02 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8748#comment-511667 Don’t know what the big deal is…I worked as a secretary for years and most of my bosses cheated and everyone knew it. They were wonderful fathers and their wives loved them for all the finanical pleasures they were able to have. Maybe Tiger should have hired a personal assistant to keep his “affairs” organized.

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By: Z http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/14/tiger-woods-who-cares/comment-page-1/#comment-511643 Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:13:08 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8748#comment-511643 Henry Giroux has a great analysis of it on TruthOut. It’s all about consumerism and oh yeah, it’s relevant:
http://www.truthout.org/1215092

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By: Digger http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/14/tiger-woods-who-cares/comment-page-1/#comment-511440 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:48:46 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8748#comment-511440 Rad made my point before I got a chance to! I agree it brings up all sorts of issues of race, gender, marriage, culture wars, etc. But it isn’t really news. I’d expect to see it on E! or Oprah or some equivalent gossip show, but the news? Really? Ugh.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/14/tiger-woods-who-cares/comment-page-1/#comment-511188 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:22:26 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8748#comment-511188 Katherine–great points. Not only does America have a “marriage problem,” this is a racialized phenomenon, too. I still don’t get why TW’s non-criminal behavior (as KoshemBos notes) is so much more of a big deal than Bryant’s criminal acts, unless it’s really all about the bigger Benjamins TW stands to lose because he has more endorsements than Bryant had.

ADM–how dare you harsh their gossipy buzz over on your friend’s vlog!

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By: Katherine http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/14/tiger-woods-who-cares/comment-page-1/#comment-511140 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:06:05 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8748#comment-511140 I wonder if part of the racial issue is that Kobe’s behavior fulfilled certain stereotypes of African-American men, while Tiger, who is married to a white woman, was as one poster pointed out fulfilling a middle class ideal read white middle class ideal–he even plays golf!) and has betrayed it. So he is/was an African-American man that the fans could like, accept, and imagine a bit like themselves, and now has reminded “us” that he is really just like “them.” Look at how invested we’ve all become in Obama’s family. And yes, America has huge marriage issues, made also more complicated by the fact that we live longer, so monogamy is harder since we don’t loose spouses to death so frequently.

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By: Another Damned Medievalist http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/14/tiger-woods-who-cares/comment-page-1/#comment-510943 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:14:47 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8748#comment-510943 Heh. A person I have known since jr. high is a heavy duty vlogger whose every post goes to Facebook multiple times because he tweets and posts and triple-links everything. The other day he posted on this, and asked for youtube responses to his assertion that this ws bad for golf and for America. I couldn’t be bothered to vlog, but did say that I thought that it wasn’t going to kill golf, just as the retirement of Sampras and Agassi hadn’t killed tennis. Moreover, I thought that the prurient interest in things like this was really unhealthy and soul-destroying, not only because it appealed to our baser instincts, but also because it distracted us from things that are truly important. I also said that I thought that it was sort of anti-liberal to care so much about people’s private lives.

The comment was deleted…

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By: KoshemBos http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/14/tiger-woods-who-cares/comment-page-1/#comment-510909 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 04:35:27 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8748#comment-510909 Just because Tiger Woods is a celebrity shouldn’t change our view of what happened. We are not upset if Mr blogger goes door to door in the neighborhood and does a tiger.

More importantly, having sex with other than your legal spouse is not illegal nor a universal travesty, Tiger must be allowed the freedom, as should Mr. Blogger, to have sex with properly aged men and women. It is a question of freedom though with a small F.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/14/tiger-woods-who-cares/comment-page-1/#comment-510783 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:25:55 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=8748#comment-510783 Rad–I think you’re exactly right. If Tiger hadn’t screwed up, we’d still be talking about the White House State Dinner party crashers. . . it’s not like we (the American people) would be involved in serious conversations about the totally predictable trainwreck that is health INSURANCE “reform,” let alone Iraq, Afghanistan, FISA, Guantanamo Bay, TARP, etc.

Echhhh. . . I give up.

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