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	<title>Comments on: Mad Men:  still aggressively anti-sexy</title>
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		<title>By: Homostorian Americanist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Homostorian Americanist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to be the person third from the left.  I HEART Joan!

I agree with Christen that someone gets to have some fun in the sack in season three, but it&#039;s exactly who you&#039;d expect, and I don&#039;t even think that can be considered a spoiler.   The season itself was just not as much fun as One or Two, in my humble opinion.  Way too much home life (booooring) and not enough of some of the smaller characters in the office.  There&#039;s not nearly as much of my very favorite as there should be, but Tanya is totally right: the last episode is great, not least because of the stellar performance of Mrs. Joan Harris!

As for Sally, I kind of love her.  Her lisp is ridiculously good and they&#039;ve really given her such a part.  The kids could have been such throwaways (and her brother kind of still is) but she really becomes a major player in her own right.  Granted, it&#039;s at home, which I find booooring, but still, she helps make it less so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to be the person third from the left.  I HEART Joan!</p>
<p>I agree with Christen that someone gets to have some fun in the sack in season three, but it&#8217;s exactly who you&#8217;d expect, and I don&#8217;t even think that can be considered a spoiler.   The season itself was just not as much fun as One or Two, in my humble opinion.  Way too much home life (booooring) and not enough of some of the smaller characters in the office.  There&#8217;s not nearly as much of my very favorite as there should be, but Tanya is totally right: the last episode is great, not least because of the stellar performance of Mrs. Joan Harris!</p>
<p>As for Sally, I kind of love her.  Her lisp is ridiculously good and they&#8217;ve really given her such a part.  The kids could have been such throwaways (and her brother kind of still is) but she really becomes a major player in her own right.  Granted, it&#8217;s at home, which I find booooring, but still, she helps make it less so.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/01/mad-men-still-aggressively-anti-sexy/comment-page-1/#comment-499717</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 05:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indyanna--&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amctv.com/originals/madmen/madmenyourself/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&#039;s the link to the Mad Men-ization program.&lt;/a&gt;

Inspired by Tom&#039;s curiosity about the characters above (and they&#039;re not commentors, they&#039;re characters in the show), I&#039;m contemplating putting together a whole gallery of Mad Men-ized regular commentors and seeing if anyone recognizes hirself...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indyanna&#8211;<a href="http://www.amctv.com/originals/madmen/madmenyourself/" rel="nofollow">here&#8217;s the link to the Mad Men-ization program.</a></p>
<p>Inspired by Tom&#8217;s curiosity about the characters above (and they&#8217;re not commentors, they&#8217;re characters in the show), I&#8217;m contemplating putting together a whole gallery of Mad Men-ized regular commentors and seeing if anyone recognizes hirself&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Indyanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indyanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dang, I still don&#039;t know how you make those graphics.  Is this some kind of a Second Life utility (my chair is big on 2L)?  But even I could see that was Historiann strolling across in front of those two cranky Suits in the elevator lobby.  Indyanna has left the building, probably in the hands of the agency&#039;s doorguard/ ropemeister.  That&#039;s all right.  He&#039;ll just have to take his $200M account across the street to that edgy shop started last week by the guys they fired!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang, I still don&#8217;t know how you make those graphics.  Is this some kind of a Second Life utility (my chair is big on 2L)?  But even I could see that was Historiann strolling across in front of those two cranky Suits in the elevator lobby.  Indyanna has left the building, probably in the hands of the agency&#8217;s doorguard/ ropemeister.  That&#8217;s all right.  He&#8217;ll just have to take his $200M account across the street to that edgy shop started last week by the guys they fired!</p>
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		<title>By: tanya</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, if I remember correctly, AMC is likely to re-air the third season this spring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, if I remember correctly, AMC is likely to re-air the third season this spring.</p>
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		<title>By: tanya</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Christen on this one.

And that&#039;s all I can say without spoiling anything more. But seriously, the end of Season 3 is fairly incredible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Christen on this one.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s all I can say without spoiling anything more. But seriously, the end of Season 3 is fairly incredible.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/12/01/mad-men-still-aggressively-anti-sexy/comment-page-1/#comment-499371</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. GPP:  always happy to provide a distraction.  But, of course, you get what you pay for here, friends!

No, I don&#039;t think anyone here has brought up the weirdness of Sally and Bobby D. (or whatever his name is), so we can credit you with that observation.  My husband&#039;s comment about Sally Draper was, &quot;Oh yeah, you can just see Sally at a commune in the Haight in about 8 or 10 years!&quot;

This probably says a little too much about me, but I keep wondering when Betty is going to unload on Sally for not being quite as beautiful or as thin as Mommy.  Why do I think that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. GPP:  always happy to provide a distraction.  But, of course, you get what you pay for here, friends!</p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t think anyone here has brought up the weirdness of Sally and Bobby D. (or whatever his name is), so we can credit you with that observation.  My husband&#8217;s comment about Sally Draper was, &#8220;Oh yeah, you can just see Sally at a commune in the Haight in about 8 or 10 years!&#8221;</p>
<p>This probably says a little too much about me, but I keep wondering when Betty is going to unload on Sally for not being quite as beautiful or as thin as Mommy.  Why do I think that?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.GunPowderPlot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr.GunPowderPlot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn&#039;t thought of the anti-sex message in MM as coming from the AIDS generation, but it&#039;s a good point. I&#039;m thinking that no, no one ever has any real fun in bed on this show this season, but then the show seems to spend most of its time saying that no one has any fun at all. &quot;The 60&#039;s, kids, were not all pot-smoking and Woodstock.&quot; Indeed, the show consistently tells us that it was no fun to be a woman, no fun to be African-American, and gosh darn it, even the men weren&#039;t having as much fun as we&#039;d hoped. Was it here we were talking about those weird kids? The Draper kids clearly have years of therapy ahead of them. 

Roger is certainly the character you love to hate, even (especially?) at his worst, and he&#039;s definitely the sexiest, which I think comes from the fact that he IS having fun.

And this, btw, is way more fun than grading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t thought of the anti-sex message in MM as coming from the AIDS generation, but it&#8217;s a good point. I&#8217;m thinking that no, no one ever has any real fun in bed on this show this season, but then the show seems to spend most of its time saying that no one has any fun at all. &#8220;The 60&#8242;s, kids, were not all pot-smoking and Woodstock.&#8221; Indeed, the show consistently tells us that it was no fun to be a woman, no fun to be African-American, and gosh darn it, even the men weren&#8217;t having as much fun as we&#8217;d hoped. Was it here we were talking about those weird kids? The Draper kids clearly have years of therapy ahead of them. </p>
<p>Roger is certainly the character you love to hate, even (especially?) at his worst, and he&#8217;s definitely the sexiest, which I think comes from the fact that he IS having fun.</p>
<p>And this, btw, is way more fun than grading.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one on Cooper &amp; Rand!  Funny.

It&#039;s true that few of them enjoy anything.  Roger&#039;s pleasures may be short-lived, but he has a lot of them, and he&#039;s got a sense of humor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one on Cooper &#038; Rand!  Funny.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that few of them enjoy anything.  Roger&#8217;s pleasures may be short-lived, but he has a lot of them, and he&#8217;s got a sense of humor.</p>
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		<title>By: Clio Bluestocking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clio Bluestocking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, few of these characters get any real enjoyment out of anything. Even Roger finds his joys short-lived. Perhaps Bert Cooper, with his quirky ways, enjoys life, but he seems to be celibate (unless he&#039;s having an affair with Ayn Rand).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, few of these characters get any real enjoyment out of anything. Even Roger finds his joys short-lived. Perhaps Bert Cooper, with his quirky ways, enjoys life, but he seems to be celibate (unless he&#8217;s having an affair with Ayn Rand).</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My readers have the sexxay, though.  I don&#039;t want to imprison them in the tragically unsexy world of MM!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My readers have the sexxay, though.  I don&#8217;t want to imprison them in the tragically unsexy world of MM!</p>
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