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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/11/29/flesh-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-497859</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with this all the way, however, why should the UK know about the racial politics of the US? i think with our history of colonialism we have quite enough to sort out on our own account... BTW, black people here get irritated if called british african-americans!

However, i think that both examples are not us specific so much as just plan ole&#039; racist - N**** brown was a common name for a brown colour in the 50&#039;s and earlier because of very racist reasons, and it is shocking that it lingered into the 1980s. 

The navaho image is different, in that although i agree it is racist, however given that in the UK the priniple image of first nation people is from US media, i.e. disney, etc., this is much less surprising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with this all the way, however, why should the UK know about the racial politics of the US? i think with our history of colonialism we have quite enough to sort out on our own account&#8230; BTW, black people here get irritated if called british african-americans!</p>
<p>However, i think that both examples are not us specific so much as just plan ole&#8217; racist &#8211; N**** brown was a common name for a brown colour in the 50&#8242;s and earlier because of very racist reasons, and it is shocking that it lingered into the 1980s. </p>
<p>The navaho image is different, in that although i agree it is racist, however given that in the UK the priniple image of first nation people is from US media, i.e. disney, etc., this is much less surprising.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh.

Sparkly vampires!

Ruth&#039;s story about the obscene yarn reminds me of other examples in which the British don&#039;t quite get American racial politics.  (It&#039;s not just a British problem--I think most outsiders to any culture have a hard time grasping what&#039;s taboo and what&#039;s OK.)  Example:  a restaurant and bar that used to be (maybe still is?) in Covent Garden called &quot;Navaho Joe&#039;s,&quot; which features as its logo a Navaho male figure tipping back a giant bottle of booze.  (But then, whose cultures and histories am I disregarding and/or trashing because I can&#039;t be bothered to learn?  A lesson for all, perhaps.)

Indyanna--congrats on the flu shot.  Hell, if you can&#039;t get a Band-Aid for a shot, then what&#039;s the point?  (Then again, I used to give blood for the juice and cookies).  Maybe you should donate several boxes of Barbie or HK Band-Aids to your local flu shot clinic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh.</p>
<p>Sparkly vampires!</p>
<p>Ruth&#8217;s story about the obscene yarn reminds me of other examples in which the British don&#8217;t quite get American racial politics.  (It&#8217;s not just a British problem&#8211;I think most outsiders to any culture have a hard time grasping what&#8217;s taboo and what&#8217;s OK.)  Example:  a restaurant and bar that used to be (maybe still is?) in Covent Garden called &#8220;Navaho Joe&#8217;s,&#8221; which features as its logo a Navaho male figure tipping back a giant bottle of booze.  (But then, whose cultures and histories am I disregarding and/or trashing because I can&#8217;t be bothered to learn?  A lesson for all, perhaps.)</p>
<p>Indyanna&#8211;congrats on the flu shot.  Hell, if you can&#8217;t get a Band-Aid for a shot, then what&#8217;s the point?  (Then again, I used to give blood for the juice and cookies).  Maybe you should donate several boxes of Barbie or HK Band-Aids to your local flu shot clinic.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Lowrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen Lowrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think only the  twilight vampires might have &quot;flesh&quot; that sparkly ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think only the  twilight vampires might have &#8220;flesh&#8221; that sparkly <img src='http://www.historiann.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Indyanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indyanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to fight to get any kind of a bandaid at all over the needle spot when I got my &quot;seasonal&quot; flu shot the other week.  The administratrix said oh, it&#039;ll hurt when you tear it off.  I said that&#039;s o.k.  It really took some wheedling. Maybe they&#039;re just in cost-containment mode, as this was a U-provided &quot;free&quot; shot.  What can I say, I had an internist once who said you should cover any place where the skin is broken.  Not that I do so  with the dings and nicks of everyday life. 

I thought that White House party-crasher&#039;s sari was pretty cool the other night.  It certainly seemed to light up the Biden team.  Maybe they could describe it as &quot;sunburn?&quot;  What a bizarre story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to fight to get any kind of a bandaid at all over the needle spot when I got my &#8220;seasonal&#8221; flu shot the other week.  The administratrix said oh, it&#8217;ll hurt when you tear it off.  I said that&#8217;s o.k.  It really took some wheedling. Maybe they&#8217;re just in cost-containment mode, as this was a U-provided &#8220;free&#8221; shot.  What can I say, I had an internist once who said you should cover any place where the skin is broken.  Not that I do so  with the dings and nicks of everyday life. </p>
<p>I thought that White House party-crasher&#8217;s sari was pretty cool the other night.  It certainly seemed to light up the Biden team.  Maybe they could describe it as &#8220;sunburn?&#8221;  What a bizarre story.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When my kids were in preschool, the classroom had a box of bandaids in a whole rainbow of &quot;flesh&quot; tones.  It must have come from a multicultural educational catalog or something.  I&#039;m sure they liked the cartoon character ones better though.

When I was in graduate school, a group of us were discussing Crayola crayons and we decided the &quot;Flesh&quot; color should be renamed &quot;privilege pink.&quot;  

Just one more anecdote--in 1980, there was a line of Shetland yarn available in the UK in which one of the colors was  called &quot;N***** Brown.&quot;  The saleswoman in the shop in Oxford didn&#039;t see anything wrong with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my kids were in preschool, the classroom had a box of bandaids in a whole rainbow of &#8220;flesh&#8221; tones.  It must have come from a multicultural educational catalog or something.  I&#8217;m sure they liked the cartoon character ones better though.</p>
<p>When I was in graduate school, a group of us were discussing Crayola crayons and we decided the &#8220;Flesh&#8221; color should be renamed &#8220;privilege pink.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Just one more anecdote&#8211;in 1980, there was a line of Shetland yarn available in the UK in which one of the colors was  called &#8220;N***** Brown.&#8221;  The saleswoman in the shop in Oxford didn&#8217;t see anything wrong with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ADM--I just checked:  the HK Band-Aids have latex.

The best adhesive bandages I&#039;ve ever used are those NextCare bandages, which don&#039;t come in &quot;flesh&quot; and instead feature clear adhesive and all have cartoon characters or other decorations.  Those things will stay on through a week of showers or baths.  (If you want them to, that is.)  They&#039;re more expensive than Band-Aids, but they really stick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ADM&#8211;I just checked:  the HK Band-Aids have latex.</p>
<p>The best adhesive bandages I&#8217;ve ever used are those NextCare bandages, which don&#8217;t come in &#8220;flesh&#8221; and instead feature clear adhesive and all have cartoon characters or other decorations.  Those things will stay on through a week of showers or baths.  (If you want them to, that is.)  They&#8217;re more expensive than Band-Aids, but they really stick.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The standard pale-pink colored band-aids never bothered me, since they match my actual skin pretty well.  That dress, though - if my skin resembled that color it would probably indicate that I had suffered serious blood loss and needed a large transfusion ASAP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The standard pale-pink colored band-aids never bothered me, since they match my actual skin pretty well.  That dress, though &#8211; if my skin resembled that color it would probably indicate that I had suffered serious blood loss and needed a large transfusion ASAP!</p>
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		<title>By: Another Damned Medievalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Damned Medievalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I give her a pass expensive clothes, because it&#039;s part of the job.  And goodness knows she wears non-couture clothes often enough. 

I&#039;m seriously confused as how anyone could call that color &#039;flesh&#039; though. I have noticed that some bra companies are calling ex-nude &#039;buff&#039;.  

I was sort of interested in the pic of the elastic bandages from China (or possibly Japan) -- considering the relative homogeneity of their populations, it&#039;s not all that surprising, and I wouldn&#039;t really lump them in with the Bandaids because concepts of race are slightly different in Asia. 

Also, are the Hello Kitty bandaids latex-free?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give her a pass expensive clothes, because it&#8217;s part of the job.  And goodness knows she wears non-couture clothes often enough. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m seriously confused as how anyone could call that color &#8216;flesh&#8217; though. I have noticed that some bra companies are calling ex-nude &#8216;buff&#8217;.  </p>
<p>I was sort of interested in the pic of the elastic bandages from China (or possibly Japan) &#8212; considering the relative homogeneity of their populations, it&#8217;s not all that surprising, and I wouldn&#8217;t really lump them in with the Bandaids because concepts of race are slightly different in Asia. </p>
<p>Also, are the Hello Kitty bandaids latex-free?</p>
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		<title>By: Sweet Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sweet Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Mrs. Obama&#039;s dress is lovely and she looks stunning but it feels a little like admiring Marie Antoinette&#039;s lastest court gown before the tumbrels roll.
Hey, Mr. President, we are losing our homes out here.
I really don&#039;t give a damn what color they call Mrs. O&#039;s newest couturier creation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Mrs. Obama&#8217;s dress is lovely and she looks stunning but it feels a little like admiring Marie Antoinette&#8217;s lastest court gown before the tumbrels roll.<br />
Hey, Mr. President, we are losing our homes out here.<br />
I really don&#8217;t give a damn what color they call Mrs. O&#8217;s newest couturier creation.</p>
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		<title>By: justme</title>
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		<dc:creator>justme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad I&#039;m not the only grown-up academic to wear Hello Kitty bandaids. We also have pickle bandaids, which are, surprisingly, the best I&#039;ve ever used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad I&#8217;m not the only grown-up academic to wear Hello Kitty bandaids. We also have pickle bandaids, which are, surprisingly, the best I&#8217;ve ever used.</p>
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