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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/11/22/sunday-moo-orning-run/comment-page-1/#comment-490770</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could be, Indyanna--as everyone in Cali says, Easterners always love Pasadena!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could be, Indyanna&#8211;as everyone in Cali says, Easterners always love Pasadena!</p>
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		<title>By: Indyanna</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/11/22/sunday-moo-orning-run/comment-page-1/#comment-490763</link>
		<dc:creator>Indyanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assuming these former houses are not bungalows, but rather McMansions, or even starter mansions, tearing them down so the herd can roam strikes me as being change we can live with. This isn&#039;t some ConAgra p.r. outreach program, is it?  

Speaking of visible and invisible mountain backdrops, I saw _Wonderful Life_ the other evening in a mothballed Art Deco theatre not a hundred yards from where Jimbo (Stewart) grew up, and it&#039;s *way* different on the big gray screen than the dozens of times I&#039;ve seen it on TV. In the scene where they go out to &quot;Bailey Acres&quot; to see the new affordable housing start-up that Mr. Potter wants to landfill, in the background you can see mountainsides that have to be the San Gabriels.  Did they film that thing at the Huntington Library, and only pretend it was Back East?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assuming these former houses are not bungalows, but rather McMansions, or even starter mansions, tearing them down so the herd can roam strikes me as being change we can live with. This isn&#8217;t some ConAgra p.r. outreach program, is it?  </p>
<p>Speaking of visible and invisible mountain backdrops, I saw _Wonderful Life_ the other evening in a mothballed Art Deco theatre not a hundred yards from where Jimbo (Stewart) grew up, and it&#8217;s *way* different on the big gray screen than the dozens of times I&#8217;ve seen it on TV. In the scene where they go out to &#8220;Bailey Acres&#8221; to see the new affordable housing start-up that Mr. Potter wants to landfill, in the background you can see mountainsides that have to be the San Gabriels.  Did they film that thing at the Huntington Library, and only pretend it was Back East?</p>
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		<title>By: Ignatz</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/11/22/sunday-moo-orning-run/comment-page-1/#comment-490718</link>
		<dc:creator>Ignatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at a party with Baa Ram vet students. They loved cows! &quot;So sweet, so gentle, those big eyes.&quot; I guess sheep can be snarky. 
Personally, I think cows are shaped like the United States and they scare me almost as much as my beloved country does sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at a party with Baa Ram vet students. They loved cows! &#8220;So sweet, so gentle, those big eyes.&#8221; I guess sheep can be snarky.<br />
Personally, I think cows are shaped like the United States and they scare me almost as much as my beloved country does sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Oroboros</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/11/22/sunday-moo-orning-run/comment-page-1/#comment-490370</link>
		<dc:creator>Oroboros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, sorry for another double post, you really need to sit through &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5s5qGg01nE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cows with guns&lt;/A&gt; if you haven&#039;t heard it before. No matter how you feel about guns, those are some hard-core puns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, sorry for another double post, you really need to sit through <a HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5s5qGg01nE" rel="nofollow">cows with guns</a> if you haven&#8217;t heard it before. No matter how you feel about guns, those are some hard-core puns.</p>
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		<title>By: Oroboros</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/11/22/sunday-moo-orning-run/comment-page-1/#comment-490352</link>
		<dc:creator>Oroboros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to check on &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.his.com/~phe/farm.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;I&gt;Animal Farm&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/A&gt; for references now.

I first read it while growing up on a farm where I tended two calves and numerous chickens (and a few hogs in the immediate vicinity I had no responsibility for). 

I was bored out of my skull and far too young to appreciate much of the politics. But the story was good enough to entertain me at least twice. It might be time to read it again. I think at least one High School or College Course made it required reading, so I understand the political context now.

&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Animal Farm begins by introducing Mr. Jones, the master of the farm, who is too drunk to shut the popholes in the henhouse. The owner of Manor Farm also forgets to milk the cows, a biologically-serious omission, and is irresponsible toward the rest of his animals. (Later yet, the pigs will also forget the milking, an ironic parallel that reveals the subsequent corruption of the revolution.) One of the cows breaks into the store shed and Mr. Jones and his helpers try to fight off the hungry animals. &quot;A minute later all five of them were in full flight down the cart track that led to the main road, with the animals pursuing them in triumph.&quot; Then, &quot;almost before they knew what was happening, the Rebellion had been successfully carried through - Jones was expelled, and the Manor Farm was theirs.&quot; Yet with the revolution secured, there are graver dangers than the threat of invasion and counter-revolution. The ultimate corruption of the revolution is presaged immediately: 

    &quot;They raced back to the farm building to wipe out the last traces of Jones&#039; hated reign... the reins, the halters, the degrading nosebags, were thrown onto the rubbish fire which was burning in the yard. So were the whips.&quot; 

Their reaction is understandable, but the desciption of the inevitable and immediate violence foreshadows the fate of the rebellion: reactionary cruelty, the search for the scapegoat, and the perversion of the ideals of the revolution.
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to check on <a HREF="http://www.his.com/~phe/farm.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Animal Farm</i></a> for references now.</p>
<p>I first read it while growing up on a farm where I tended two calves and numerous chickens (and a few hogs in the immediate vicinity I had no responsibility for). </p>
<p>I was bored out of my skull and far too young to appreciate much of the politics. But the story was good enough to entertain me at least twice. It might be time to read it again. I think at least one High School or College Course made it required reading, so I understand the political context now.</p>
<blockquote><p>Animal Farm begins by introducing Mr. Jones, the master of the farm, who is too drunk to shut the popholes in the henhouse. The owner of Manor Farm also forgets to milk the cows, a biologically-serious omission, and is irresponsible toward the rest of his animals. (Later yet, the pigs will also forget the milking, an ironic parallel that reveals the subsequent corruption of the revolution.) One of the cows breaks into the store shed and Mr. Jones and his helpers try to fight off the hungry animals. &#8220;A minute later all five of them were in full flight down the cart track that led to the main road, with the animals pursuing them in triumph.&#8221; Then, &#8220;almost before they knew what was happening, the Rebellion had been successfully carried through &#8211; Jones was expelled, and the Manor Farm was theirs.&#8221; Yet with the revolution secured, there are graver dangers than the threat of invasion and counter-revolution. The ultimate corruption of the revolution is presaged immediately: </p>
<p>    &#8220;They raced back to the farm building to wipe out the last traces of Jones&#8217; hated reign&#8230; the reins, the halters, the degrading nosebags, were thrown onto the rubbish fire which was burning in the yard. So were the whips.&#8221; </p>
<p>Their reaction is understandable, but the desciption of the inevitable and immediate violence foreshadows the fate of the rebellion: reactionary cruelty, the search for the scapegoat, and the perversion of the ideals of the revolution.
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/11/22/sunday-moo-orning-run/comment-page-1/#comment-490305</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homostorian Americanist--it&#039;s totes part of our usual run.  But in the past few weeks that we&#039;ve been on hiatus, they tore down several houses and created an urban cattle preserve!  No joke.  

History Maven:  do you know cattle?  They&#039;re about the last species you&#039;d expect to plot revolution.  (After sheep perhaps, which are even dumber, and a lot meaner, IMHO.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homostorian Americanist&#8211;it&#8217;s totes part of our usual run.  But in the past few weeks that we&#8217;ve been on hiatus, they tore down several houses and created an urban cattle preserve!  No joke.  </p>
<p>History Maven:  do you know cattle?  They&#8217;re about the last species you&#8217;d expect to plot revolution.  (After sheep perhaps, which are even dumber, and a lot meaner, IMHO.)</p>
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		<title>By: HistoryMaven</title>
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		<dc:creator>HistoryMaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those cattle are plotting revolution.  Can&#039;t you tell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those cattle are plotting revolution.  Can&#8217;t you tell?</p>
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		<title>By: Homostorian Americanist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Homostorian Americanist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my, Historiann!  Where are you running?  This is clearly not our normal route.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my, Historiann!  Where are you running?  This is clearly not our normal route.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My morning walk (of which I often post cell phone photos on FB) has few animals, except ducks, geese, herons on the creek.   The funniest thing is that I think I&#039;ve been taking crappy cell phone photographs, but some of my fans want me to have an exhibit of my artistic pix!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My morning walk (of which I often post cell phone photos on FB) has few animals, except ducks, geese, herons on the creek.   The funniest thing is that I think I&#8217;ve been taking crappy cell phone photographs, but some of my fans want me to have an exhibit of my artistic pix!</p>
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		<title>By: Oroboros</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oroboros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My anti-troll piece is &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.wildernessvagabonds.com/zp/index.php?p=news&amp;title=Internets-are-Serious-Business&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/A&gt;.

Obviously, Historiann doesn&#039;t tolerate trolling here, it&#039;s more for the benefit of anyone who has to deal with them on other forums beside this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My anti-troll piece is <a HREF="http://www.wildernessvagabonds.com/zp/index.php?p=news&amp;title=Internets-are-Serious-Business" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>Obviously, Historiann doesn&#8217;t tolerate trolling here, it&#8217;s more for the benefit of anyone who has to deal with them on other forums beside this one.</p>
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