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		<title>By: Oroboros</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/11/11/must-be-swell-being-a-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-480098</link>
		<dc:creator>Oroboros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PBR = Professional Bull Riding.

I posted a tl;dr about Coors boycott and gay rodeo, but too many links caused it to be flagged. Wish I could register and avoid the spam filters.</description>
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<p>I posted a tl;dr about Coors boycott and gay rodeo, but too many links caused it to be flagged. Wish I could register and avoid the spam filters.</p>
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		<title>By: Mamie</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/11/11/must-be-swell-being-a-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-479906</link>
		<dc:creator>Mamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused.  Why are you drinking Coors at a PBR event?  Shouldn&#039;t you be drinking PBR?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused.  Why are you drinking Coors at a PBR event?  Shouldn&#8217;t you be drinking PBR?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/11/11/must-be-swell-being-a-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-479619</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don&#039;t have any cow stories (though I loved MOO too).  But we do have cattle grazing right next to campus, which is kind of neat.   I have helped shear both sheep and a llama -- the latter leading to a sharp kick in the shins.  My friend had never done it before and it was a case of learning by doing....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t have any cow stories (though I loved MOO too).  But we do have cattle grazing right next to campus, which is kind of neat.   I have helped shear both sheep and a llama &#8212; the latter leading to a sharp kick in the shins.  My friend had never done it before and it was a case of learning by doing&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Indyanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indyanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m using Robert Dykstra&#039;s oldie but goodie, _The Cattle Towns_, set in pre-Ozian Kansas, in the U.S. Survey this semester. We were talking about that great apostle of Western Expansion, Horace Potter, yesterday, so I swung them a little bit farther west (virtually, of course) to Potterville for a look at a *real* &quot;on the hoof&quot; kind of a town. I was visiting at the OTHER State U. back when Smiley&#039;s book came out--right after the e-mail was invented I think--and I was deluged with e-mails from city slicker friends back east assuming that I knew where all of the great scenes &quot;happened,&quot; which I didn&#039;t.

The only dialogue items I&#039;ve retained from _The Sun Also Rises_ are two classic pieces of pub-crawl guytalk, viz. &quot;Comest the commestibles,&quot; and the even drunker lament that &quot;the road to Hell is paved with unbought stuffed dogs...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m using Robert Dykstra&#8217;s oldie but goodie, _The Cattle Towns_, set in pre-Ozian Kansas, in the U.S. Survey this semester. We were talking about that great apostle of Western Expansion, Horace Potter, yesterday, so I swung them a little bit farther west (virtually, of course) to Potterville for a look at a *real* &#8220;on the hoof&#8221; kind of a town. I was visiting at the OTHER State U. back when Smiley&#8217;s book came out&#8211;right after the e-mail was invented I think&#8211;and I was deluged with e-mails from city slicker friends back east assuming that I knew where all of the great scenes &#8220;happened,&#8221; which I didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>The only dialogue items I&#8217;ve retained from _The Sun Also Rises_ are two classic pieces of pub-crawl guytalk, viz. &#8220;Comest the commestibles,&#8221; and the even drunker lament that &#8220;the road to Hell is paved with unbought stuffed dogs&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Oroboros</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/11/11/must-be-swell-being-a-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-479378</link>
		<dc:creator>Oroboros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.denverpost.com/entertainment/ci_8070101&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s a story in the Denver Post on the performance of Plainsong that I saw&lt;/A&gt;. It&#039;s interesting to me because they discuss the process of adaptation with the original author and his comments about Hallmark are right on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://www.denverpost.com/entertainment/ci_8070101" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s a story in the Denver Post on the performance of Plainsong that I saw</a>. It&#8217;s interesting to me because they discuss the process of adaptation with the original author and his comments about Hallmark are right on.</p>
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		<title>By: Oroboros</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/11/11/must-be-swell-being-a-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-479377</link>
		<dc:creator>Oroboros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last woman I dated is a fan of rodeo. She still comes over to watch it on my big screen. A couple nights ago I was subjected to an unholy triumvirate of television: Keeping up with the Kardashians, Professional Bull Riding&#039;s world championship (winner is Kody Lostroh from Longmont BTW), and finally a NatGeo show on 2012 predictions, which was the clearest sign that the night had come to an end.

I also took her to the rodeo here a few years ago mainly for the PBR event. It was quite something and I&#039;m glad I had the experience. I drank the obligatory Coors in a plastic bottle and watched a lot of the show. They had a Clydesdale team in one segment, and a Wells Fargo coach in another. Finally with a big wagon team and they showed how you can back up a wagon that is hitched to 8 horses who don&#039;t usually want to walk backward.

Have you read or seen Plainsong? I caught a stage performance that I really enjoyed.

WIRED had coverage of the newest &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/11/haptic-cow/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;haptic cow&lt;/A&gt; this week. I&#039;m glad I&#039;m not a vet, or a cow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last woman I dated is a fan of rodeo. She still comes over to watch it on my big screen. A couple nights ago I was subjected to an unholy triumvirate of television: Keeping up with the Kardashians, Professional Bull Riding&#8217;s world championship (winner is Kody Lostroh from Longmont BTW), and finally a NatGeo show on 2012 predictions, which was the clearest sign that the night had come to an end.</p>
<p>I also took her to the rodeo here a few years ago mainly for the PBR event. It was quite something and I&#8217;m glad I had the experience. I drank the obligatory Coors in a plastic bottle and watched a lot of the show. They had a Clydesdale team in one segment, and a Wells Fargo coach in another. Finally with a big wagon team and they showed how you can back up a wagon that is hitched to 8 horses who don&#8217;t usually want to walk backward.</p>
<p>Have you read or seen Plainsong? I caught a stage performance that I really enjoyed.</p>
<p>WIRED had coverage of the newest <a HREF="http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/11/haptic-cow/" rel="nofollow">haptic cow</a> this week. I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m not a vet, or a cow.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/11/11/must-be-swell-being-a-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-479373</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathie, I *LOVED* &lt;i&gt;Moo&lt;/i&gt; when I first read it in the mid-1990s.  Brilliant book--much better than anything David Lodge ever wrote.  (I find his books unreadable--they&#039;re just far too English, far too sexist, far too everything...and I like English novels a lot, usually.)

Tom, I&#039;ve been out of town for the 4th of July recently, so I haven&#039;t seen the longhorns lately, but they are an impressive sight.  It&#039;s only semi-terrifying to see the streets of Potterville lined with cheering toddlers and children as the steer move down the street...I&#039;m always fearful of a stampede, but I think they have those animals on valium or something like that.

Janice:  great story about breaking the calf!  It must come in handy when dealing with recalcitrant students, on occasion, amirite?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathie, I *LOVED* <i>Moo</i> when I first read it in the mid-1990s.  Brilliant book&#8211;much better than anything David Lodge ever wrote.  (I find his books unreadable&#8211;they&#8217;re just far too English, far too sexist, far too everything&#8230;and I like English novels a lot, usually.)</p>
<p>Tom, I&#8217;ve been out of town for the 4th of July recently, so I haven&#8217;t seen the longhorns lately, but they are an impressive sight.  It&#8217;s only semi-terrifying to see the streets of Potterville lined with cheering toddlers and children as the steer move down the street&#8230;I&#8217;m always fearful of a stampede, but I think they have those animals on valium or something like that.</p>
<p>Janice:  great story about breaking the calf!  It must come in handy when dealing with recalcitrant students, on occasion, amirite?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great!  reminded me of Jane Smiley&#039;s academic satire (or maybe not so satiric after all!) _Moo_.
No cattle or other large animals around me now, but I did grow up adjacent to a dairy farm in New England, and the cows from time to time broke through their fence and got into my father&#039;s vegetable garden - literally, &quot;cows in the corn.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great!  reminded me of Jane Smiley&#8217;s academic satire (or maybe not so satiric after all!) _Moo_.<br />
No cattle or other large animals around me now, but I did grow up adjacent to a dairy farm in New England, and the cows from time to time broke through their fence and got into my father&#8217;s vegetable garden &#8211; literally, &#8220;cows in the corn.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They used to herd a small group of longhorn cattle right by our house on the way to the big fourth of July parade in Potterville.  Nothing like being awakened by the clop-clop-clop of hooves on pavement!  The parade itself was always a highlight, too: not only did it feature more horses than most parades I&#039;ve seen, but the regular passage of  street sweepers mingling among the floats and cleaning up after the horses was one of the more amusing fourth-of-July displays of civic responsibility I&#039;ve ever witnessed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They used to herd a small group of longhorn cattle right by our house on the way to the big fourth of July parade in Potterville.  Nothing like being awakened by the clop-clop-clop of hooves on pavement!  The parade itself was always a highlight, too: not only did it feature more horses than most parades I&#8217;ve seen, but the regular passage of  street sweepers mingling among the floats and cleaning up after the horses was one of the more amusing fourth-of-July displays of civic responsibility I&#8217;ve ever witnessed.</p>
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		<title>By: Janice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was an undergrad, a friend in the pre-vet stream was taking a course that involved stock-handling. She was assigned a particularly recalcitrant Hereford calf to deal with and begged our help to halter-break the li&#039;l bastard.

Being a sucker, I agreed. I thought my years working with horses had prepared me for animal stupidity but, no!, cows are completely different. Nothing like being dragged face-first through a pen of you know what on a cold morning to be a defining moment in my education.

At least my friend was better able to handle the calf after that session and did well enough in the calf-handling component of her class to not disgrace her GPA. And our majors complain about the required methods class with archival and microform requirements!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was an undergrad, a friend in the pre-vet stream was taking a course that involved stock-handling. She was assigned a particularly recalcitrant Hereford calf to deal with and begged our help to halter-break the li&#8217;l bastard.</p>
<p>Being a sucker, I agreed. I thought my years working with horses had prepared me for animal stupidity but, no!, cows are completely different. Nothing like being dragged face-first through a pen of you know what on a cold morning to be a defining moment in my education.</p>
<p>At least my friend was better able to handle the calf after that session and did well enough in the calf-handling component of her class to not disgrace her GPA. And our majors complain about the required methods class with archival and microform requirements!</p>
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