Comments on: It’s so easy to find common ground in the “debate” over forced pregnancy when you’re a man!

By: Tim Lacy

Tim Lacy — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:47:23 +0000

It’s a symptom of pseudo-intellectual Milton Friedmanism that Saletan, and the rest of the welfare-mom-with-9-kids crowd, could truly believe that $1000 birth incentive will create an Ehrlich-esque population bomb fallout of a million little poor kids. Wow. Otherwise, ditto to several of the comments above. …Sorry to be another man chirping on the issue. At least I’m a father who appreciates how $1000 undervalues the child-bearing experience—unless, that is, you live in extremely poor area of northern Arkansas where the money would get you a nice car to put on cinder blocks for additional yard ornamentation. – TL

By: j

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:36:39 +0000

no doubt the thousand dollars would be considered taxable income …

By: Historiann

Historiann — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:09:43 +0000

I like your plan, Sis–see if those chumps will offer up their bodies for one large. I’m quite sure that (for example) SJP and Matthew Broderick paid a hell of a lot more for their twin daughters just recently born.

Molly–I don’t see Huck as representative of Arkansas so much as representative of a certain kind of white, protestant man who really has the plan for all of us. He’s the guy for the Dems to watch, now that these other Red State prettyboys have gone down in adulterous flames. Huck is a likeable guy–that’s his big advantage over Romney–who can put all kinds of atrocious policy ideas over because people don’t perceive him as someone who would intentionally hurt them.

And, Lance–yes, maybe the simplest explanation is the best in this case. (And thanks Z for the suppored on the 13th!)

By: Sisyphus

Sisyphus — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:11:26 +0000

One.Thousand.Dollars! OMG! That’s almost a whole month’s rent for me! Why am I trying to find a *job* right now when I could just get knocked up and given a grand to keep the baby! Yeah!!!!!

Uh, do I have to actually squeeze the baby out a little hole during labor? For hours and hours? Hmm… maybe I could donate the fetus and have it implanted in Waldman or Saletan for a thousand bucks and have one of *them* give birth to it if they love them so much!

By: Z

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:11:21 +0000

13th amendment, d*** straight.

By: Lance

Lance — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:12:45 +0000

Hah! Perhaps they (the men) figured that they’d get to keep the $1K themselves, roughly the cost of a flat screen, for some Sunday football? My XY brothers are stoopid/smart. The simplest/dumbest/most perverse explanation might the the right one.

By: Molly

Molly — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:44:24 +0000

First of all, that’s the most hideous effing baby I’ve ever seen. Thanks for that.

Secondly, I wrote a blog entry about this very topic not too long ago. I grew up in Arkansas and have met Huckleberry a few times. He went to college in my hometown and is friends with my brother, actually. Can I just say all Arkansans aren’t like him? I’d just like to point that out.

I like your blog, by the way.

By: Historiann

Historiann — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:34:36 +0000

Now–there you go again, Susan and bluelyon, thinking that there is a larger social and political context for unwanted pregnancies and abortions! Of course, Lord Saletan and High Priest Waldman haven’t considered the fact that prenatal care and a way to cover delivery just might be a major worry for a woman who’s already unexpectedly pregnant, and that single-payer (as opposed to our current system of every person for herself) might make it more possible for some women to go ahead with their pregnancies. Just think what a boon to the pro-life movement single-payer health care would be!

And Susan, how morally irresponsible to point out that babies aren’t born equal into the adoption “market.” (But, hey–sorry, baby. That’s why we call it a market: some will win, and some will lose, and it’s designed to work that way.) Oh well Jen and Barb–isn’t it great that Huck has all the answers? I wonder how many kids he has adopted from poor, desperate girls? Whatever the number, it can never be enough.

And Janice and anon–yeah, I really feel sorry for Waldman’s and Saletan’s slot machines and purity vessels–uh, I mean their wives and daughters.

By: bluelyon

bluelyon — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:51:05 +0000

$1,000 wouldn’t even cover her medical expenses. What a couple of idjits.

By: anon

anon — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:17:18 +0000

This is the funniest/scariest thing I’ve heard in a long time. I wonder where they came up with the sum of $1000. I have to say, that’s the part I find most offensive in the whole “debate” (and that’s saying a lot!). I’m not sure what’s more misogynist – the idea that $1000 is all a pregnancy is “worth” (I guess we now know not only the value of women’s labor but ALSO the worth of the life of a child to these guys!) or that they think women are dumb enough to go for that. I sure am envious of their wives.