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	<title>Comments on: Another lesson for girls:  love your body</title>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/06/02/another-lesson-for-girls-love-your-body/comment-page-1/#comment-327556</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This also reminded me of a great piece by Kate Harding, &quot;The Fantasy of Being Thin&quot;: http://kateharding.net/2007/11/27/the-fantasy-of-being-thin/ . It&#039;s oriented toward fat chicks like myself, but really it works for anybody trying to live up to some impossible body ideal and putting off real life because of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This also reminded me of a great piece by Kate Harding, &#8220;The Fantasy of Being Thin&#8221;: <a href="http://kateharding.net/2007/11/27/the-fantasy-of-being-thin/" rel="nofollow">http://kateharding.net/2007/11/27/the-fantasy-of-being-thin/</a> . It&#8217;s oriented toward fat chicks like myself, but really it works for anybody trying to live up to some impossible body ideal and putting off real life because of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;To me, this is a reflection of the wider societal attitude that women’s bodies are public property, and can be freely analysed and picked apart by complete strangers.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, indeed.  Excellent point.  Women can&#039;t win--criticizing their bodies for whatever shape or size they are is a great way to attack women for daring to make their own decisions about food, exercise, and appearance.

I think you&#039;re right, too, that becoming more athletic is a good strategy for encouraging people to have a healthier relationship with food and with their bodies.  (With the exceptions perhaps of ballet and figure skating!)  That&#039;s another great suggestion for Alex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;To me, this is a reflection of the wider societal attitude that women’s bodies are public property, and can be freely analysed and picked apart by complete strangers.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Yes, indeed.  Excellent point.  Women can&#8217;t win&#8211;criticizing their bodies for whatever shape or size they are is a great way to attack women for daring to make their own decisions about food, exercise, and appearance.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right, too, that becoming more athletic is a good strategy for encouraging people to have a healthier relationship with food and with their bodies.  (With the exceptions perhaps of ballet and figure skating!)  That&#8217;s another great suggestion for Alex.</p>
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		<title>By: Bavardess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavardess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that gets me about our whole throw-away celebrity culture is that women.cannot.win. You&#039;re either too fat or too skinny, or if you have a &#039;perfect&#039; figure, your pilloried for having cellulite or a bump on your nose or whatever. I have a friend who is naturally extremely thin, and she gets fed up with people she doesn&#039;t even know accusing her of being anorexic (she most definitely is not). To me, this is a reflection of the wider societal attitude that women&#039;s bodies are public property, and can be freely analysed and picked apart by complete strangers.

I wasted way too much time fretting over my body. It was only when I got into distance running in my early 30s that my attitude changed, and I started to truly value my body for what it could do instead of what it looked like. Running my first half-marathon was an incredibly empowering experience (even if I was dead slow!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that gets me about our whole throw-away celebrity culture is that women.cannot.win. You&#8217;re either too fat or too skinny, or if you have a &#8216;perfect&#8217; figure, your pilloried for having cellulite or a bump on your nose or whatever. I have a friend who is naturally extremely thin, and she gets fed up with people she doesn&#8217;t even know accusing her of being anorexic (she most definitely is not). To me, this is a reflection of the wider societal attitude that women&#8217;s bodies are public property, and can be freely analysed and picked apart by complete strangers.</p>
<p>I wasted way too much time fretting over my body. It was only when I got into distance running in my early 30s that my attitude changed, and I started to truly value my body for what it could do instead of what it looked like. Running my first half-marathon was an incredibly empowering experience (even if I was dead slow!).</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex--good question.  Can you encourage her to get involved in groups and clubs that will allow her to focus her time and attention on something other than her body image?  It won&#039;t cure the problem entirely, but making sure she&#039;s doing more than reading trashy mags and staring at herself in the mirror might pull her out of herself.  If she gets in with a good group, she may meet people who have more realistic notions of their bodies and a healthier relationship with food.

I think you can also question her directly about why she thinks looks are so important.  They feel that way at 17, but you may plant some seeds that encourage her to think about using her time now to help put herself where she wants to be at 20, 24, or somewhere else down the line.  You are her older brother, so presumably you have a little bit more wisdom and experience to offer her from your perspective, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex&#8211;good question.  Can you encourage her to get involved in groups and clubs that will allow her to focus her time and attention on something other than her body image?  It won&#8217;t cure the problem entirely, but making sure she&#8217;s doing more than reading trashy mags and staring at herself in the mirror might pull her out of herself.  If she gets in with a good group, she may meet people who have more realistic notions of their bodies and a healthier relationship with food.</p>
<p>I think you can also question her directly about why she thinks looks are so important.  They feel that way at 17, but you may plant some seeds that encourage her to think about using her time now to help put herself where she wants to be at 20, 24, or somewhere else down the line.  You are her older brother, so presumably you have a little bit more wisdom and experience to offer her from your perspective, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Historiann, I agree with what you are saying. But how do I convey your message to my seventeen year old sister, especially as her older brother who would seemingly &quot;know nothing&quot; about it? She is locked in the obsessive phase of unrealistic celebrity body worship and emulation which, as it appears to me, is dictating her youth and social life. I would hate for her to be filled with regret in her later years, especially if there was something I could do to help her now. Is there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Historiann, I agree with what you are saying. But how do I convey your message to my seventeen year old sister, especially as her older brother who would seemingly &#8220;know nothing&#8221; about it? She is locked in the obsessive phase of unrealistic celebrity body worship and emulation which, as it appears to me, is dictating her youth and social life. I would hate for her to be filled with regret in her later years, especially if there was something I could do to help her now. Is there?</p>
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		<title>By: Lilian Nattel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilian Nattel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally!</description>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of all the lessons for girls, this is the one I wish I&#039;d learned.  As a teenager I wished I were taller, then I wished I were thinner. . . Not sure I&#039;m completely over it, but I&#039;m better.  And I&#039;m always stunned the assumption that you should do surgery to &quot;fix&quot; whatever isn&#039;t &quot;right&quot; -- nose, breasts, whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of all the lessons for girls, this is the one I wish I&#8217;d learned.  As a teenager I wished I were taller, then I wished I were thinner. . . Not sure I&#8217;m completely over it, but I&#8217;m better.  And I&#8217;m always stunned the assumption that you should do surgery to &#8220;fix&#8221; whatever isn&#8217;t &#8220;right&#8221; &#8212; nose, breasts, whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: secondhandsally</title>
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		<dc:creator>secondhandsally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminded me of a Margaret Cho piece: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4XP7KvIecI&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=5FE4E12929DF16A3&amp;playnext=1&amp;playnext_from=PL&amp;index=19</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminded me of a Margaret Cho piece: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4XP7KvIecI&#038;feature=PlayList&#038;p=5FE4E12929DF16A3&#038;playnext=1&#038;playnext_from=PL&#038;index=19" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4XP7KvIecI&#038;feature=PlayList&#038;p=5FE4E12929DF16A3&#038;playnext=1&#038;playnext_from=PL&#038;index=19</a></p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No shirt, no shoes, NO DICE!

Love that Rick Springfield head shot--I used to watch him on General Hospital.  Who&#039;s the guy in the photo underneath?  I&#039;ll send a special prize to anyone who gets the right answer.  (Could it be Anthony Edwards?  But no--he was in Fast Times, too!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No shirt, no shoes, NO DICE!</p>
<p>Love that Rick Springfield head shot&#8211;I used to watch him on General Hospital.  Who&#8217;s the guy in the photo underneath?  I&#8217;ll send a special prize to anyone who gets the right answer.  (Could it be Anthony Edwards?  But no&#8211;he was in Fast Times, too!)</p>
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		<title>By: Knitting Clio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knitting Clio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link.  As to the picture, remember those fast times we had with Spicoli?  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link.  As to the picture, remember those fast times we had with Spicoli?  <img src='http://www.historiann.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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