Comments on: Two more lessons for girls: you can say no, and don’t peak early http://www.historiann.com/2009/05/31/two-more-lessons-for-girls-you-can-say-no-and-dont-peak-early/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:11:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: nicolec http://www.historiann.com/2009/05/31/two-more-lessons-for-girls-you-can-say-no-and-dont-peak-early/comment-page-1/#comment-325501 nicolec Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:35:23 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=5512#comment-325501 How cool! This is when I love the internets! How cool! This is when I love the internets!

]]> By: Z http://www.historiann.com/2009/05/31/two-more-lessons-for-girls-you-can-say-no-and-dont-peak-early/comment-page-1/#comment-325314 Z Mon, 01 Jun 2009 07:53:26 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=5512#comment-325314 Have you seen that this has been picked up in Spain? http://unpadre.wordpress.com/2009/05/31/vade-mecum-feminista/ Have you seen that this has been picked up in Spain?

http://unpadre.wordpress.com/2009/05/31/vade-mecum-feminista/

]]> By: Bavardess http://www.historiann.com/2009/05/31/two-more-lessons-for-girls-you-can-say-no-and-dont-peak-early/comment-page-1/#comment-325242 Bavardess Mon, 01 Jun 2009 02:40:08 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=5512#comment-325242 Great, thanks for that - I've now been walking around all morning humming 'Hey Micky you're so fine, you're so fine you blow my mind..." I also had a 'Deirdre G' in my class at school. It was kind of poignant to run into her 20 years later and find she'd become a rather bland (both in looks and in personality) woman who seemed already fed up with life in her late 30s. I, on the other hand, fervently believe my best years are still before me! Great, thanks for that – I’ve now been walking around all morning humming ‘Hey Micky you’re so fine, you’re so fine you blow my mind…”

I also had a ‘Deirdre G’ in my class at school. It was kind of poignant to run into her 20 years later and find she’d become a rather bland (both in looks and in personality) woman who seemed already fed up with life in her late 30s. I, on the other hand, fervently believe my best years are still before me!

]]> By: Indyanna http://www.historiann.com/2009/05/31/two-more-lessons-for-girls-you-can-say-no-and-dont-peak-early/comment-page-1/#comment-325240 Indyanna Mon, 01 Jun 2009 02:38:57 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=5512#comment-325240 Target just survived a campaign by a shareholder activist to dump management s board nominees in favor of a dissident ticket. They held the annual meeting in a store under construction in Waukesha, WI. They even let the rebel give a speech, which is more than most CEOs do when they control the microphone. But the effort got voted down. I don/t think the campaign was about tarty T shirt inventories in Aisle Five, however, just a call for management to raise the stock price with some tarty fiscal engineering. Target just survived a campaign by a shareholder activist to dump management s board nominees in favor of a dissident ticket. They held the annual meeting in a store under construction in Waukesha, WI. They even let the rebel give a speech, which is more than most CEOs do when they control the microphone. But the effort got voted down.

I don/t think the campaign was about tarty T shirt inventories in Aisle Five, however, just a call for management to raise the stock price with some tarty fiscal engineering.

]]> By: nicolec http://www.historiann.com/2009/05/31/two-more-lessons-for-girls-you-can-say-no-and-dont-peak-early/comment-page-1/#comment-325219 nicolec Mon, 01 Jun 2009 02:10:01 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=5512#comment-325219 It is! It is!

]]> By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2009/05/31/two-more-lessons-for-girls-you-can-say-no-and-dont-peak-early/comment-page-1/#comment-325191 Historiann Mon, 01 Jun 2009 01:27:02 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=5512#comment-325191 nicolec--I agree with you that little girls are sexualized in disturbing ways. (All of those tarty little T-shirts--who buys those things?!?) It's creepy that we push that kind of gear on children and then refuse to talk to them frankly about sex. I've been very, very disappointed by Target on this score. (I wonder--was it Target where your friend couldn't find anything?) nicolec–I agree with you that little girls are sexualized in disturbing ways. (All of those tarty little T-shirts–who buys those things?!?) It’s creepy that we push that kind of gear on children and then refuse to talk to them frankly about sex.

I’ve been very, very disappointed by Target on this score. (I wonder–was it Target where your friend couldn’t find anything?)

]]> By: nicolec http://www.historiann.com/2009/05/31/two-more-lessons-for-girls-you-can-say-no-and-dont-peak-early/comment-page-1/#comment-324962 nicolec Sun, 31 May 2009 19:16:50 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=5512#comment-324962 I think there could be a nice tangential lesson here about being sexy at a young age. A lot of the clothing my 12-14 year old students wear is sexy and I'm disturbed by it. A friend of mine went shopping for her 5 year old and couldn't find anything at that particular store that wasn't sexy to a certain degree. We seem to be teaching them young to look hot- rather than to be comfortable and to have fun. I say look hot in your 20s and 30s (when you have the body, independence and income to maintain it). I think there could be a nice tangential lesson here about being sexy at a young age. A lot of the clothing my 12-14 year old students wear is sexy and I’m disturbed by it. A friend of mine went shopping for her 5 year old and couldn’t find anything at that particular store that wasn’t sexy to a certain degree. We seem to be teaching them young to look hot- rather than to be comfortable and to have fun. I say look hot in your 20s and 30s (when you have the body, independence and income to maintain it).

]]> By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2009/05/31/two-more-lessons-for-girls-you-can-say-no-and-dont-peak-early/comment-page-1/#comment-324952 Historiann Sun, 31 May 2009 18:31:18 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=5512#comment-324952 Notorious--maybe "straight edge" but not boring! It's good to be able to sing, after Edith Piaf, "Je ne regrette rien," eh? Notorious–maybe “straight edge” but not boring! It’s good to be able to sing, after Edith Piaf, “Je ne regrette rien,” eh?

]]> By: Notorious Ph.D. http://www.historiann.com/2009/05/31/two-more-lessons-for-girls-you-can-say-no-and-dont-peak-early/comment-page-1/#comment-324950 Notorious Ph.D. Sun, 31 May 2009 18:16:57 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=5512#comment-324950 H: I'm utterly, boringly substance-free these days (unless you count copious amounts of caffeine). But I regret nothing. As the Wife of Bath says: "But Lord Christ! When I do remember me Upon my youth and on my jollity, It tickles me about my heart's deep root. To this day does my heart sing in salute That I have had my world in my own time." H: I’m utterly, boringly substance-free these days (unless you count copious amounts of caffeine). But I regret nothing. As the Wife of Bath says:

“But Lord Christ! When I do remember me
Upon my youth and on my jollity,
It tickles me about my heart’s deep root.
To this day does my heart sing in salute
That I have had my world in my own time.”

]]> By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2009/05/31/two-more-lessons-for-girls-you-can-say-no-and-dont-peak-early/comment-page-1/#comment-324949 Historiann Sun, 31 May 2009 18:12:22 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=5512#comment-324949 Notorious: are you still smoking? (Pot?) Maybe smoking pot would have undercut my Tracy Flick-ish ways, but all I could muster was a few clove cigarettes when I was 15. TR: do you know what those things cost? Outrageous! Notorious: are you still smoking? (Pot?) Maybe smoking pot would have undercut my Tracy Flick-ish ways, but all I could muster was a few clove cigarettes when I was 15.

TR: do you know what those things cost? Outrageous!

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