Comments on: Shooting fish in a barrel http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/28/shooting-fish-in-a-barrel/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Sun, 21 Sep 2014 01:45:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: SexyKathi http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/28/shooting-fish-in-a-barrel/comment-page-1/#comment-1335135 Sun, 10 Feb 2013 01:43:05 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4923#comment-1335135 Somebody essentially assist to make significantly articles I might state. That is the very first time I frequented your website page and so far? I surprised with the research you made to create this particular publish amazing. Magnificent process!

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By: On “Changing” Higher Education « Professor Zero http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/28/shooting-fish-in-a-barrel/comment-page-1/#comment-316596 Sun, 17 May 2009 18:22:26 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4923#comment-316596 [...] out response to Smith’s questions, as well as Historiann’s truly important (and funny!) criticism of some NYT pieces which appear to have helped to prompt Smith’s [...]

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By: Reforming higher ed: unleash the power of the free market! : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/28/shooting-fish-in-a-barrel/comment-page-1/#comment-315959 Sat, 16 May 2009 14:47:04 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4923#comment-315959 [...] by the American Federation of Teachers higher ed blog to answer two questions inspired by that foolish op-ed in the New York Times by Mark C. Taylor last month.  The AFT’s questions [...]

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By: Fats Durston http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/28/shooting-fish-in-a-barrel/comment-page-1/#comment-306331 Fri, 01 May 2009 16:49:17 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4923#comment-306331 Just to pile on about the “merely $5000 per course” bit. Try 1800 fucking $US per course in mid-Missouri.

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By: Erica http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/28/shooting-fish-in-a-barrel/comment-page-1/#comment-305359 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:40:42 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4923#comment-305359 I’m always irked when corporate entities trumpet “green” while planning to put the actual green saved straight to their bottom lines.
While there is a problem with “oh we’re so green” being more a PR tactic than actual environmentally-friendly changes, savings to corporations are really the strongest motivator to convince them to adopt sustainable practices. Sustainability is best approached as a comprehensive solution — planet gets cleaner, customers/employees are healthier or happier, corporation reduces its expenses.

Of course, technically you could consider laying off 20,000+ employees to be a “green” move by GM, since those employees won’t be emitting carbon dioxide while they drive to work — it can quickly get ridiculous :)

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/28/shooting-fish-in-a-barrel/comment-page-1/#comment-304943 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:20:52 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4923#comment-304943 Cassandra–good points. There seems to be an unlimited appetite at the NYT for dissing professors!

I hope those proffies walked off with some of those trays before they were shipped to landfill, if indeed any of them really cared enough about the issue.

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By: Cassandra http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/28/shooting-fish-in-a-barrel/comment-page-1/#comment-304666 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:42:44 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4923#comment-304666 Re: the cafeteria trays.

What happened to all the old trays?

Landfill, maybe?

What exactly were the professors’ objections to the loss of the trays?

“This is ridiculous” makes good copy, but conveys little more than “Professor X is unfair.”

Did not one of those many complaining professors proffer a compelling argument in their favor? Not one? Really?

To me, these 2 [related but not really] instances of journalism reveal the state of that profession and its inability to serve the public any longer by its refusal to explore answers to societal concerns instead of cultivating pathos to serve the corporate masters and sate the arena’s bloodlust.

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By: Caleb McDaniel http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/28/shooting-fish-in-a-barrel/comment-page-1/#comment-304611 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:57:35 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4923#comment-304611 @Erika–thanks for the kind words. Right now I’m still just lurking around. But I can feel the blogosphere beginning to turn its tractor beam on me again.

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By: Indyanna http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/28/shooting-fish-in-a-barrel/comment-page-1/#comment-304590 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:38:10 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4923#comment-304590 The Times piece on trays in fact ends with the rhetorical note that it’s not clear yet what will replace the tray for impromptu sledding. Saving water and saving planets is all fine, but I’m always irked when corporate entities trumpet “green” while planning to put the actual green saved straight to their bottom lines. The Cornell profs probably got tired of having A-3 sub-deputy administrators address them as just so many additional stakeholders on the premises, which I think is a valid objection.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/28/shooting-fish-in-a-barrel/comment-page-1/#comment-304577 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:32:12 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4923#comment-304577 Ha! That’s hillarious. You’re right, Emma: we are old fuddy-duddies, but it’s good to see that students have embraced the change. I think it makes complete sense, especially from a “take what you eat and eat what you take” perspective.

Maybe all of those Cornell proffies like to secret the trays out of the dining hall to go sledding on them? I don’t know whether I should be ashamed or proud of the fact that I still have the tray I purloined junior year in college for that very purpose. (It’s a very handy tray!)

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