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	<title>Comments on: Adjuncts jumping to the tenure track?</title>
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		<title>By: Negotiating the Paradox: Adjuncts and Writing &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Opening the Tenure Discussion = Opening a Wound?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Negotiating the Paradox: Adjuncts and Writing &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Opening the Tenure Discussion = Opening a Wound?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] now, I want to close by pointing readers to a few online conversations about who get tenure (found here, here, and here), and then to some tools for those seeking [...]</description>
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		<title>By: P.D. Lesko</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/07/adjuncts-jumping-to-the-tenure-track/comment-page-1/#comment-300703</link>
		<dc:creator>P.D. Lesko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Glad you found my posting of interest. I found the replies to it on your site very illuminating. Keep up the good work.

Best wishes,

P.D. Lesko</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Glad you found my posting of interest. I found the replies to it on your site very illuminating. Keep up the good work.</p>
<p>Best wishes,</p>
<p>P.D. Lesko</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/07/adjuncts-jumping-to-the-tenure-track/comment-page-1/#comment-284269</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon, what you report sounds pretty typical to me.  (Typical in that it&#039;s harder for women to do what you&#039;re doing, and typical that it&#039;s not just men but also some women who make it harder on other women.  No one is innocent of sex bias!)  

I think you should work out your family and professional lives however you and your wife want to, according to your needs and the needs of your child/ren.  My motto is that there are all kinds of different people in the world and all kinds of families--what works for one family won&#039;t work for all, not by a long shot.  Good luck!  

(You might want to check out the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.insidehighered.com/blogs/mama_phd&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mama Ph.D. blog&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;em&gt;Inside Higher Ed&lt;/em&gt;.  It&#039;s a group blog in which one of the women is the long-distance commuter away from her children, who live at home with their father.)  You&#039;ll note of course that there is no such blog as &quot;Papa Ph.D.&quot;--which is of course part of the problem we&#039;re talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon, what you report sounds pretty typical to me.  (Typical in that it&#8217;s harder for women to do what you&#8217;re doing, and typical that it&#8217;s not just men but also some women who make it harder on other women.  No one is innocent of sex bias!)  </p>
<p>I think you should work out your family and professional lives however you and your wife want to, according to your needs and the needs of your child/ren.  My motto is that there are all kinds of different people in the world and all kinds of families&#8211;what works for one family won&#8217;t work for all, not by a long shot.  Good luck!  </p>
<p>(You might want to check out the <a href="http://www.insidehighered.com/blogs/mama_phd" rel="nofollow">Mama Ph.D. blog</a> at <em>Inside Higher Ed</em>.  It&#8217;s a group blog in which one of the women is the long-distance commuter away from her children, who live at home with their father.)  You&#8217;ll note of course that there is no such blog as &#8220;Papa Ph.D.&#8221;&#8211;which is of course part of the problem we&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello historiann-

I have been reading this blog for a few months and always find it informative. I do not want to hijack anything or violate your rules, but I do have a question for you and your readers. 

So, I am a grad student in history whose wife has a phd in another field and has accepted a one-year position for next year. We have a small child. We have always planned on moving to wherever she got a job because I started after her, and will be moving this summer. We have also always been prepared to live separately after I finished. We hope to stay together, but we know that that is a luxury in this life rather than a given.

Now, this somewhat depends on the location--for instance, the availability of quality schooling is a deal-breaker--but, we have assumed from the beginning that our kids would live with me once they were done nursing. There are two reasons for this: 1)  I am more suited, temperamentally speaking and being able to go without sleep when necessary, to the realities of living with school-age children, and 2) we assume that my career would take less of a hit. That is, I will get credit for having the kids instead of being seen as a &#039;mommy.&#039; Do you think that is a reasonable assumption? Neither my wife or I like that this seems to be the way things are, but that is the impression that we get from conversations with faculty and general attitudes in our departments. 

For example, when my wife became pregnant, the faculty in my department were nothing but supportive. The DGS told me to bring my child to any meetings and has never been critical of our decision to have a child while in grad school. However, with women in my department who have become pregnant, he has expressed many more reservations. He even recommended one woman not come to grad school (after they had accepted her) because she had small children at home. The thing that is most onerous about this scenario is that I do more of the day-to-day childcare of my son because my department requires far less teaching than my wife&#039;s. So, here I do not get any guilt directed my way, but still get to be the primary parent. Male privilege, I guess. I should also say that there are women professors in the department who are dismissive of grad students reproducing. 

best,

anon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello historiann-</p>
<p>I have been reading this blog for a few months and always find it informative. I do not want to hijack anything or violate your rules, but I do have a question for you and your readers. </p>
<p>So, I am a grad student in history whose wife has a phd in another field and has accepted a one-year position for next year. We have a small child. We have always planned on moving to wherever she got a job because I started after her, and will be moving this summer. We have also always been prepared to live separately after I finished. We hope to stay together, but we know that that is a luxury in this life rather than a given.</p>
<p>Now, this somewhat depends on the location&#8211;for instance, the availability of quality schooling is a deal-breaker&#8211;but, we have assumed from the beginning that our kids would live with me once they were done nursing. There are two reasons for this: 1)  I am more suited, temperamentally speaking and being able to go without sleep when necessary, to the realities of living with school-age children, and 2) we assume that my career would take less of a hit. That is, I will get credit for having the kids instead of being seen as a &#8216;mommy.&#8217; Do you think that is a reasonable assumption? Neither my wife or I like that this seems to be the way things are, but that is the impression that we get from conversations with faculty and general attitudes in our departments. </p>
<p>For example, when my wife became pregnant, the faculty in my department were nothing but supportive. The DGS told me to bring my child to any meetings and has never been critical of our decision to have a child while in grad school. However, with women in my department who have become pregnant, he has expressed many more reservations. He even recommended one woman not come to grad school (after they had accepted her) because she had small children at home. The thing that is most onerous about this scenario is that I do more of the day-to-day childcare of my son because my department requires far less teaching than my wife&#8217;s. So, here I do not get any guilt directed my way, but still get to be the primary parent. Male privilege, I guess. I should also say that there are women professors in the department who are dismissive of grad students reproducing. </p>
<p>best,</p>
<p>anon</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Ellie--what a bunch of jerks!  This is why I&#039;m pessimistic about anything changing, and why the argument that &quot;this is generational!&quot; doesn&#039;t fly with me.  

I think a lot of men are decent guys (like Tom above) who are supportive of their wives&#039; careers, but there are an awful lot who want to have their feminist cake and eat it too (that is, pay lipservice to the values but not have to put pay to them.)  

I&#039;m glad to hear that some of your women friends are getting good offers, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Ellie&#8211;what a bunch of jerks!  This is why I&#8217;m pessimistic about anything changing, and why the argument that &#8220;this is generational!&#8221; doesn&#8217;t fly with me.  </p>
<p>I think a lot of men are decent guys (like Tom above) who are supportive of their wives&#8217; careers, but there are an awful lot who want to have their feminist cake and eat it too (that is, pay lipservice to the values but not have to put pay to them.)  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad to hear that some of your women friends are getting good offers, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen an interesting and distressing pattern among dual-academic friends (not a huge &#039;N,&#039; admittedly, but this has happened to just about every couple in a small group of recent—last 5-7 years—PhDs). Before going on the market, the couple have a big talk and decide that they will be equal-opportunity in deciding where to go. The husbands are very open-minded, embrace their feminism and agree that the family will move to the location of the best job, whichever of the partners lands it. What doesn&#039;t come out until the offers are on the table is that the husbands have been assuming all along that *they* would be the ones with the winning option. When it&#039;s the wife that gets the better offer, the husbands have a really hard time dealing with it. There are fights and serious discontent on the husband&#039;s part, unless they renegotiate the original agreement and take his offer. 

I can certainly sympathize with the need to consider family harmony in making this kind of decision, but I have been very struck by the unspoken (perhaps even unconscious) assumption by these considerate, progressive, pro-feminist men that they won&#039;t actually be called upon to act on their progressive, pro-feminist sentiments. It simply doesn&#039;t ever seriously occur to them that their wives might actually get the better offer until it happens, and then they can&#039;t handle it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen an interesting and distressing pattern among dual-academic friends (not a huge &#8216;N,&#8217; admittedly, but this has happened to just about every couple in a small group of recent—last 5-7 years—PhDs). Before going on the market, the couple have a big talk and decide that they will be equal-opportunity in deciding where to go. The husbands are very open-minded, embrace their feminism and agree that the family will move to the location of the best job, whichever of the partners lands it. What doesn&#8217;t come out until the offers are on the table is that the husbands have been assuming all along that *they* would be the ones with the winning option. When it&#8217;s the wife that gets the better offer, the husbands have a really hard time dealing with it. There are fights and serious discontent on the husband&#8217;s part, unless they renegotiate the original agreement and take his offer. </p>
<p>I can certainly sympathize with the need to consider family harmony in making this kind of decision, but I have been very struck by the unspoken (perhaps even unconscious) assumption by these considerate, progressive, pro-feminist men that they won&#8217;t actually be called upon to act on their progressive, pro-feminist sentiments. It simply doesn&#8217;t ever seriously occur to them that their wives might actually get the better offer until it happens, and then they can&#8217;t handle it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a male following my female partner to a TT job. I think you are right that it remains a rarity and that it is not generational. Half the people I tell are horrified that I&#039;m doing this, the other half think I&#039;m doing something &quot;admirable&quot; (I&#039;m not sure why...she got the job with health insurance...it was a no-brainer!). Only one or two people think it is unremarkable. 

In contrast, last year I almost took a (terrible) job; most everyone just assumed she would follow, though the school offered her nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a male following my female partner to a TT job. I think you are right that it remains a rarity and that it is not generational. Half the people I tell are horrified that I&#8217;m doing this, the other half think I&#8217;m doing something &#8220;admirable&#8221; (I&#8217;m not sure why&#8230;she got the job with health insurance&#8230;it was a no-brainer!). Only one or two people think it is unremarkable. </p>
<p>In contrast, last year I almost took a (terrible) job; most everyone just assumed she would follow, though the school offered her nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: roses supposes</title>
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		<dc:creator>roses supposes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband is six years older than I am. He used to work for his family business before he followed me to grad school. Unfortunately, we came to this midwest state right when it went into an economic tailspin. So he&#039;s had three jobs in six years as an engineer. I&#039;m going on the job market this year and really thought his last job would hold out till I found a position and he could look in the new city. But he lost it in March. So now what do we do? There are no jobs in our area for engineers, so he&#039;s had to look outside of the state. So we move for his job now, then I go on the job market and we move again? And I subject a man who loves stability to yet another job search? ugh...no option seems good at the moment. I&#039;m starting to fantasize about being a freelance writer, even though my goal has always been an academic job. (my father-in-law has become enamored of on-line schools and is encouraging me to make a profession out of on-line teaching).

I have to say, too, that I&#039;m really tired of the commuting lifestyle. The job he found was an hour away from my school. So he drove for two years, then I&#039;ve been driving for three years (by my choice, I like this community better). But I feel so detached from my university. Both of us have this ideal of living within walking distance of my next university...but someone&#039;s going to have to compromise to end the commuting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband is six years older than I am. He used to work for his family business before he followed me to grad school. Unfortunately, we came to this midwest state right when it went into an economic tailspin. So he&#8217;s had three jobs in six years as an engineer. I&#8217;m going on the job market this year and really thought his last job would hold out till I found a position and he could look in the new city. But he lost it in March. So now what do we do? There are no jobs in our area for engineers, so he&#8217;s had to look outside of the state. So we move for his job now, then I go on the job market and we move again? And I subject a man who loves stability to yet another job search? ugh&#8230;no option seems good at the moment. I&#8217;m starting to fantasize about being a freelance writer, even though my goal has always been an academic job. (my father-in-law has become enamored of on-line schools and is encouraging me to make a profession out of on-line teaching).</p>
<p>I have to say, too, that I&#8217;m really tired of the commuting lifestyle. The job he found was an hour away from my school. So he drove for two years, then I&#8217;ve been driving for three years (by my choice, I like this community better). But I feel so detached from my university. Both of us have this ideal of living within walking distance of my next university&#8230;but someone&#8217;s going to have to compromise to end the commuting.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rad, I&#039;m sorry to hear that your friend didn&#039;t pull it together professinally, but that&#039;s a great story about the man on the motorcycle.  Good for her--my guess is that the lack of professinal productivity was due to a great deal of ambivalence about the career itself, not just anxiety about her location and personal life.  If she&#039;s in a happier place, then it&#039;s all for the best.

Susan--so true.  Luck still has too much to do with jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rad, I&#8217;m sorry to hear that your friend didn&#8217;t pull it together professinally, but that&#8217;s a great story about the man on the motorcycle.  Good for her&#8211;my guess is that the lack of professinal productivity was due to a great deal of ambivalence about the career itself, not just anxiety about her location and personal life.  If she&#8217;s in a happier place, then it&#8217;s all for the best.</p>
<p>Susan&#8211;so true.  Luck still has too much to do with jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Wednesday round-up: flashing red at angry bulls edition : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wednesday round-up: flashing red at angry bulls edition : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] well, well:  If all I have to do to drive up my hits is use the word &#8220;adjunct&#8221; in a headline, why didn&#8217;t you tell me sooner?  Man, that worked better than calling a certain prominent [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] well, well:  If all I have to do to drive up my hits is use the word &#8220;adjunct&#8221; in a headline, why didn&#8217;t you tell me sooner?  Man, that worked better than calling a certain prominent [...]</p>
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