Comments on: “The Company He Keeps,” a study of fraternal masculinity by Nicholas Syrett http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/01/the-company-he-keeps-a-study-of-fraternal-masculinity-by-nicholas-syrett/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Fri, 26 Sep 2014 03:40:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: Really? http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/01/the-company-he-keeps-a-study-of-fraternal-masculinity-by-nicholas-syrett/comment-page-1/#comment-2188918 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:07:38 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4252#comment-2188918 Stumbled accross this website when looking for a picture of John Belushi. You clearly need to be further educated on fraternities and I would assume general movie knowledge as your “Fratguy, AXA, Dartmouth 1988″ is John Belushi from the parody on fraternity life in the 80s.

I am guessing you are upset because a fraternity turned you down and would not allow you a chance at membership, clearly they made the right decision. Just because you could not hack it does not mean you need to take a shot at all Greek organizations.

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By: Should colleges ban fraternities? : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/01/the-company-he-keeps-a-study-of-fraternal-masculinity-by-nicholas-syrett/comment-page-1/#comment-822808 Fri, 06 May 2011 17:13:34 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4252#comment-822808 [...] starring Historiann BFF Nicholas L. Syrett of the University of Northern Colorado, author of The Company He Keeps:  A History of White College Fraternities (Chapel Hill:  University of North ….  Nick gets the debate started with a strong opinion grounded in his research on the history of [...]

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By: All the single ladies! : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/01/the-company-he-keeps-a-study-of-fraternal-masculinity-by-nicholas-syrett/comment-page-1/#comment-552196 Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:24:14 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4252#comment-552196 [...] on college campuses, if they were there at all.  So, do not panic.  (Also, please ask yourself:  how is it that men dominated heterosexuality on campus when they were in the majority, and now they allegedly do on campuses in which they are a minority?  This “new math” [...]

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By: Frat Boy Culture, Gender Identity, and Rape | Change Happens: The SAFER Blog http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/01/the-company-he-keeps-a-study-of-fraternal-masculinity-by-nicholas-syrett/comment-page-1/#comment-330531 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:36:04 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4252#comment-330531 [...] that has grown more and more aggressive over the past hundred years. One review of the book offers this summary: Always a means of asserting and defending class exclusivity, the pressures of coeducation in the [...]

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By: Tartan societies « A Magpie Historian http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/01/the-company-he-keeps-a-study-of-fraternal-masculinity-by-nicholas-syrett/comment-page-1/#comment-292678 Sun, 19 Apr 2009 01:27:40 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4252#comment-292678 [...] thinking about all of this while we waited for the event to begin, and my mind wandered to the recent discussion of fraternaties at Historiann.com. The St Andrews Society of Washington, DC, is a charitable organization open only to men. It began [...]

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By: Homostorian Americanist http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/01/the-company-he-keeps-a-study-of-fraternal-masculinity-by-nicholas-syrett/comment-page-1/#comment-277686 Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:47:18 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4252#comment-277686 I do actually discuss the origins of black fraternities, however, as their origins are pretty firmly planted in the discrimination that black students (and Jews and Catholics and Asian Americans) suffered at primarily white schools. That said, Historiann is right: because their traditions are different and because I do think they are actually different in practice now (though with some similarities around ideals of masculinity) I don’t devote lots of attention to them.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/01/the-company-he-keeps-a-study-of-fraternal-masculinity-by-nicholas-syrett/comment-page-1/#comment-277577 Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:53:57 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4252#comment-277577 Rad–the subtitle of Syrett’s book is “A History of White Fraternities.” He considered doing all fraternities, but realized early on that black fraternities were really a whole topic unto themselves that he couldn’t cover adequately in one book (esp. a first book). He wanted to signal very specifically the limits of his topic in the title, rather than to suggest that the book was about all fraternities.

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By: Rad Readr http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/01/the-company-he-keeps-a-study-of-fraternal-masculinity-by-nicholas-syrett/comment-page-1/#comment-277571 Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:44:56 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4252#comment-277571 Some years ago Greeks at the very Greek campus where I used to work invited me to be on a panel about race and ethnicity. Although I know very little about fraternities/sororities, I ventured that they were suffering from a legacy of segregation — the rise of black frats/sororities as counterparts to societies that did not allow blacks. Anecdotally, I once heard of someone pledging a fraternity who had to prove he was not of black descent. AT this panel, it was the students from black fraternities who rose to the defense of ongoing de facto segregation — and I didn’t blame them for wanting to be part of such a group on a campus that was 90 percent white.

I bring this up because Historiann, you note the white class privilege of these groups — but I am wondering if Syrett deals at all with black fraternities.

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By: Fratguy http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/01/the-company-he-keeps-a-study-of-fraternal-masculinity-by-nicholas-syrett/comment-page-1/#comment-277029 Thu, 02 Apr 2009 02:27:44 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4252#comment-277029 Syrett certainly hit the nail on the head wrt impromptu drag races. For an ostensibly homophobic institution we never, ever, passed up an opputunity for a dress up party. Not that there was anything wrong with that, I’m just saying….

As far as DKE is concerned, they are universally regarded as hammerheads, even among recovering miscreants such as myself. As my younger brother (no stranger to debauchery) once sarcastically commented about the secret DKE fraternity on the Colby campus “Oh yeah, they’re the heavy hitters, real deep thinkers”

Now I would not say that Norovirus and multiple tap sucks offer equivalent culpability, but it has been a long time since I have had to insert my head into a trash can in public. Comment, Boot, and Rally !!!!! SPRING BREAK SEATTLE !!!!!

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By: Homostorian Americanist http://www.historiann.com/2009/04/01/the-company-he-keeps-a-study-of-fraternal-masculinity-by-nicholas-syrett/comment-page-1/#comment-276914 Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:32:11 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4252#comment-276914 I’ll grant that some people’s desire for exclusivity may well lead to forms of organizing that resemble fraternities in all but name, but it does not follow that the men in those organizations are governed by testosterone in a biologically deterministic way that mandates that they mistreat women, queers, and people of color. Even fraternities have not always done so. Further, the sanction, approval, and support given by colleges and universities not only allows fraternities to get away with their misbehavior but leads others on campus to believe that it is acceptable. So colleges and universities, even if they cannot control all that their students do (as cgeye clearly points out), can draw a line in the sand about what they, as institutions, believe is appropriate behavior for their students.

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