Comments on: CU(e) the sideshow clowns http://www.historiann.com/2009/03/18/cue-the-sideshow-clowns/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Tue, 23 Sep 2014 14:15:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: David Lane defends constitution, appears at the Laugh Factory Tuesday nights : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present http://www.historiann.com/2009/03/18/cue-the-sideshow-clowns/comment-page-1/#comment-472338 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:22:30 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4076#comment-472338 [...] those of you who missed my commentary on Ward Churchill and can’t live without it, click here and revel in yet more trenchant commentary.)  Cheers, friends:  I’ve got a lot of leaves to [...]

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By: Rad Readr http://www.historiann.com/2009/03/18/cue-the-sideshow-clowns/comment-page-1/#comment-264083 Thu, 19 Mar 2009 04:38:23 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4076#comment-264083 Word to Sq..o on the reviews. Here it’s every two years after tenure, although at one point it becomes three. Files available to the entire dept and discussed at a faculty meeting.

Re: Churchill. Yes, they looked for a poster child and found one. I agree with you completely on the dangers of buckling to celebrity. And, if I remember correctly, there was something unusual about his hire. Few faculty came to his defense, and thus your silence (until now), because he raised a lot of eyebrows in the academy not because of his critiques but because some of the other things he did or did not do.

On an old friends note, we used to have some neighbors who were very friendly with him and had him out for a talk — not once twice, and my old employer did not cancel his appearance at a time when other colleges did because it got too hot.

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By: Susan http://www.historiann.com/2009/03/18/cue-the-sideshow-clowns/comment-page-1/#comment-263994 Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:59:23 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4076#comment-263994 Oh, I don’t think of it as a conspiracy; I just think that sometimes conservatives go along with things because of their contempt for the field. That is, “Students want this” — but he won’t require us to take him seriously. I think I’m just cynical.

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By: Janice http://www.historiann.com/2009/03/18/cue-the-sideshow-clowns/comment-page-1/#comment-263707 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:02:16 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4076#comment-263707 One of our former students got into an academic conference confrontation with Churchill who virulently objected to her awesome research on the lives of First Nations children. This was where I first learned about him and his presumable allergy to facts or reality — it’s a pity, as you say, that his university chose to hire and promote him without actually demanding some scholarly bona fides!

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2009/03/18/cue-the-sideshow-clowns/comment-page-1/#comment-263682 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:02:10 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4076#comment-263682 GayProf–true enough, and I think the N. Mex. situations were even more clearly related to speech in the classroom (and that their records as faculty members were unsullied until they were bound up by the Patriot Police.)

The weird thing about the Churchill case was that the essay he wrote on 9/12/01 wasn’t “discovered” and promulgated until the winter of 2005, 3-1/2 years later. It was all so clearly manufactured–like people had to rummage at the back of the closet and through their sock drawers to find something to be outraged about!

Susan: you are even more of a conspiracy theorist than I am! But that’s a damned good one, I must say. Churchill was very popular with his students–I got the impression that he had a small but extremely loyal following. I wonder if some have fallen away, or if they’re as devoted as ever?

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By: GayProf http://www.historiann.com/2009/03/18/cue-the-sideshow-clowns/comment-page-1/#comment-263657 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:56:39 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4076#comment-263657 Churchill might have been the most publicized case, but several professors faced equally harsh scrutiny and termination after 9/11 (including a case at the University of New Mexico).

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By: Susan http://www.historiann.com/2009/03/18/cue-the-sideshow-clowns/comment-page-1/#comment-263587 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:57:15 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4076#comment-263587 It’s always struck me that Churchill was there to satisfy students, but in a way that allowed people not to take Native American Studies seriously. Same thing goes for other “ethnic studies” positions.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2009/03/18/cue-the-sideshow-clowns/comment-page-1/#comment-263578 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:24:47 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4076#comment-263578 Sq.–wow. I didn’t realize I had it so good! I don’t object to post-tenure review–I just think it’s largely unnecessary and adds another document and layers of stuff on top of a process we all go through annually, anyway (our annual review and salary exercise.) But I’m still grateful that it’s only once every 5 years.

And Indyanna–I saw that guy’s obit, too. The academy has no place for that kind of smart!

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By: Indyanna http://www.historiann.com/2009/03/18/cue-the-sideshow-clowns/comment-page-1/#comment-263560 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:59:50 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4076#comment-263560 Yeah, “boutique” profs, who get lateralled into the academy on the basis of cultural mojo have always kind of irked me, although I suppose they liven things up for the students. This might be a place to note that according to the NYT obits yesterday, a guy died who a) invented the Bozo the Clown figure, b) tweaked the career of Frank Sinatra back into viability in 1952, c) scripted out the conceptual treatment for the “Bonanza” television franchise, and d) signed the Beatles to their first Capitol Records contract. For that kind of a diversified innovator, I could probably go with a tenure award based on street smarts. (And maybe a contract in hand for a first monograph…)

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By: squadratomagico http://www.historiann.com/2009/03/18/cue-the-sideshow-clowns/comment-page-1/#comment-263555 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:56:59 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=4076#comment-263555 [Tangent: You're reviewed every five years?! Wow! We still get evaluated *every* *other* *year* after tenure, for about six years; then, if we've jumped through all the appropriate hoops, we move on to a three-year review cycle. I don't think even super-senior people at OPU ever get onto a five-year review schedule. Sounds lovely!]

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