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		<title>By: Branjor</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/03/01/but-hes-such-a-nice-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-267874</link>
		<dc:creator>Branjor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post got me to thinking and wondering about an incident that happened long ago and I always thought of as innocuous. I was in high school at the time and taking Honors English. I really had a crush on the teacher of this course - the only crush on a male I ever had in my whole life. He was blond, intellectual and a really nice guy. Anyway, I was way late in coming up with a topic for my term paper, later than everyone else. So the teacher took me home to his house to think of a topic for the paper. He sat me in his dining room, told me to sit there until I thought of a topic, and left the room. The only other person in the room with me was his baby daughter, who was sound asleep in a crib, so she was no fun. I couldn&#039;t play with her. So I just sat there for about an hour or so. Then he came back into the room and asked me if I had thought of a topic. I don&#039;t remember what I said. Then I just went home and that was that! 

Well, it was great that he didn&#039;t try to molest me or anything, but now I&#039;m wondering about the incident. Why take me to his home? What would he have done if I hadn&#039;t just sat quietly in the dining room, but had sought him out? I wonder. The possible answers make me shiver.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post got me to thinking and wondering about an incident that happened long ago and I always thought of as innocuous. I was in high school at the time and taking Honors English. I really had a crush on the teacher of this course &#8211; the only crush on a male I ever had in my whole life. He was blond, intellectual and a really nice guy. Anyway, I was way late in coming up with a topic for my term paper, later than everyone else. So the teacher took me home to his house to think of a topic for the paper. He sat me in his dining room, told me to sit there until I thought of a topic, and left the room. The only other person in the room with me was his baby daughter, who was sound asleep in a crib, so she was no fun. I couldn&#8217;t play with her. So I just sat there for about an hour or so. Then he came back into the room and asked me if I had thought of a topic. I don&#8217;t remember what I said. Then I just went home and that was that! </p>
<p>Well, it was great that he didn&#8217;t try to molest me or anything, but now I&#8217;m wondering about the incident. Why take me to his home? What would he have done if I hadn&#8217;t just sat quietly in the dining room, but had sought him out? I wonder. The possible answers make me shiver.</p>
<p>What does everyone else think of this?</p>
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		<title>By: Sorry! (Carnival of Radical Feminists, pt 1) &#171; incorrigible radical feminist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sorry! (Carnival of Radical Feminists, pt 1) &#171; incorrigible radical feminist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/03/01/but-hes-such-a-nice-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-252085</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Daniel--I appreciate your coming back.  I&#039;m not saying that men are never the victims of false accusations--just that that&#039;s not the way the world usually works.  Each case has to be evaluated in light of all the evidence--and that&#039;s rough going for women victims who really are victims, because they are overwhelmingly younger, poorer, and less well established than their tormentors.  

So when I say this is a feminist blog, that&#039;s not to say that we know the &quot;truth&quot; in every case, but rather to suggest that we attend the larger context in which these crimes are committed and how they are (all too frequently) covered up and/or left unpunished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Daniel&#8211;I appreciate your coming back.  I&#8217;m not saying that men are never the victims of false accusations&#8211;just that that&#8217;s not the way the world usually works.  Each case has to be evaluated in light of all the evidence&#8211;and that&#8217;s rough going for women victims who really are victims, because they are overwhelmingly younger, poorer, and less well established than their tormentors.  </p>
<p>So when I say this is a feminist blog, that&#8217;s not to say that we know the &#8220;truth&#8221; in every case, but rather to suggest that we attend the larger context in which these crimes are committed and how they are (all too frequently) covered up and/or left unpunished.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Hoffmann-Gill</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/03/01/but-hes-such-a-nice-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-252081</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Hoffmann-Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have got that this is a feminist blog but surely, any political moniker you give yourself is not a barrier to common sense and a wide view when it comes to any issue?

One way traffic on any idea, from one angle, is never useful, best to thoroughly interrogate it from all perspectives to acheive the best possible solution.

It&#039;s funny, currently I&#039;m engaged in a furious debate regarding violence towards women in the UK, a raft of male bloggers are underplaying the extent of it (a view that I find most repulsive, being someone who had the honour of working with women who had been abused and writing a play with them to highlight the truth) but their stance forces me to make sure I investigate all the date, all the angles and to try and unpick their reasoning.

In that case, it stems from a lack of belief that in 2009 some men still treat some women like that, it comes from their own faith and their own actions but is not reflective of the wider issue. As I said to them, more women than not in my life have been the targets of abuse.

I tell you this so that you don&#039;t think me a bigot but rather a curious visitor investigating your ideas.

All the best to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have got that this is a feminist blog but surely, any political moniker you give yourself is not a barrier to common sense and a wide view when it comes to any issue?</p>
<p>One way traffic on any idea, from one angle, is never useful, best to thoroughly interrogate it from all perspectives to acheive the best possible solution.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny, currently I&#8217;m engaged in a furious debate regarding violence towards women in the UK, a raft of male bloggers are underplaying the extent of it (a view that I find most repulsive, being someone who had the honour of working with women who had been abused and writing a play with them to highlight the truth) but their stance forces me to make sure I investigate all the date, all the angles and to try and unpick their reasoning.</p>
<p>In that case, it stems from a lack of belief that in 2009 some men still treat some women like that, it comes from their own faith and their own actions but is not reflective of the wider issue. As I said to them, more women than not in my life have been the targets of abuse.</p>
<p>I tell you this so that you don&#8217;t think me a bigot but rather a curious visitor investigating your ideas.</p>
<p>All the best to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/03/01/but-hes-such-a-nice-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-251744</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 04:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>femme inista--I&#039;m sorry that you&#039;ve had experience with this.  You may find that you&#039;ll get to a place where you can talk, whatever line of work you&#039;re in.  Regardless, I hope you have friends and good support in dealing with the consequences of someone else&#039;s bad behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>femme inista&#8211;I&#8217;m sorry that you&#8217;ve had experience with this.  You may find that you&#8217;ll get to a place where you can talk, whatever line of work you&#8217;re in.  Regardless, I hope you have friends and good support in dealing with the consequences of someone else&#8217;s bad behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: femme inista</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/03/01/but-hes-such-a-nice-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-251684</link>
		<dc:creator>femme inista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and with the complete lack of protection offered by institutions when incidents are reported, one is faced with the possibility of career loss. A sexual harassment office can only assure the reporting individual that it is illegal for the harasser (or his comrades) to retaliate, but there are no teeth to actually prevent such retaliation. In my case, this guy better hope I never leave the profession I am in, because I will finally talk. Frankly, openly and loudly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and with the complete lack of protection offered by institutions when incidents are reported, one is faced with the possibility of career loss. A sexual harassment office can only assure the reporting individual that it is illegal for the harasser (or his comrades) to retaliate, but there are no teeth to actually prevent such retaliation. In my case, this guy better hope I never leave the profession I am in, because I will finally talk. Frankly, openly and loudly.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/03/01/but-hes-such-a-nice-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-251242</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Daniel--you&#039;re barking up the wrong tree at this blog.  This is a feminist blog, so most of us are highly, highly skeptical that sexual harrassment is something that equally jeopardizes men and women.  In general, feminists believe that the problem with sexual harrassment is that it is severely underreported by women, and that when it is, it&#039;s discounted or overlooked by institutions and processes that are theoretically designed to help them.  We don&#039;t believe that the biggest problem with sexual harrassment is that some women might make false accusations against some men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Daniel&#8211;you&#8217;re barking up the wrong tree at this blog.  This is a feminist blog, so most of us are highly, highly skeptical that sexual harrassment is something that equally jeopardizes men and women.  In general, feminists believe that the problem with sexual harrassment is that it is severely underreported by women, and that when it is, it&#8217;s discounted or overlooked by institutions and processes that are theoretically designed to help them.  We don&#8217;t believe that the biggest problem with sexual harrassment is that some women might make false accusations against some men.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Hoffmann-Gill</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/03/01/but-hes-such-a-nice-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-251234</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Hoffmann-Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It depends if some people do not wish to abuse the channels of legal action that can be taken.

Some people do that and a more common sense approach can be utilised.

It&#039;s not one way traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends if some people do not wish to abuse the channels of legal action that can be taken.</p>
<p>Some people do that and a more common sense approach can be utilised.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not one way traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that accusations of sexual harrassment are really a danger for most men, so long as they pay attention and make sure their attentions are wanted.  Also, avoiding hitting on students or other non-peers below you in a work environment will pretty much guarantee that there are no misunderstandings.  

It&#039;s really not difficult at all, unless you get your kicks abusing your power over someone else!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that accusations of sexual harrassment are really a danger for most men, so long as they pay attention and make sure their attentions are wanted.  Also, avoiding hitting on students or other non-peers below you in a work environment will pretty much guarantee that there are no misunderstandings.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s really not difficult at all, unless you get your kicks abusing your power over someone else!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Hoffmann-Gill</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/03/01/but-hes-such-a-nice-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-249709</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Hoffmann-Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice guys don&#039;t sexually harrass, because that would make them idiots rather than nice guys.

I must say that with the spectre of sexual harrassment cases looming over human interaction, it can sometimes lead to safety first behaviour which is no doubt good for avoiding lawsuits but not what you want when it comes to romance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice guys don&#8217;t sexually harrass, because that would make them idiots rather than nice guys.</p>
<p>I must say that with the spectre of sexual harrassment cases looming over human interaction, it can sometimes lead to safety first behaviour which is no doubt good for avoiding lawsuits but not what you want when it comes to romance.</p>
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