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		<title>By: IPad Overheats! &#171; Like a Whisper</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/02/24/burn-this-after-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-643667</link>
		<dc:creator>IPad Overheats! &#171; Like a Whisper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for seasonal use. Images of my gf tucking her paperback back in her bag chuckling and memories of historiann&#8217;s post on ebook readers in general [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Electronic textbooks: mole dishes insider intel : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/02/24/burn-this-after-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-453898</link>
		<dc:creator>Electronic textbooks: mole dishes insider intel : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] articles, but not for books that were meant to be read cover-to-cover.  And, I would add, not even on a Kindle or other such gadget.  (After all:  who wants to spend even more time in front of a darn computer screen?  Anyone?  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] articles, but not for books that were meant to be read cover-to-cover.  And, I would add, not even on a Kindle or other such gadget.  (After all:  who wants to spend even more time in front of a darn computer screen?  Anyone?  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Amazon.com in the Hot Seat Again: Differently-Abled Readers Protest &#171; Like a Whisper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amazon.com in the Hot Seat Again: Differently-Abled Readers Protest &#171; Like a Whisper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a recent discussion over at Historiann&#8217;s about the meaning of Amazon.com&#8217;s Kindle technology, several people pointed out that while we may not like the Kindle format it does have lasting and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a recent discussion over at Historiann&#8217;s about the meaning of Amazon.com&#8217;s Kindle technology, several people pointed out that while we may not like the Kindle format it does have lasting and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul T.S. Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul T.S. Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In defense of e-text readers (I read my e-texts mostly on my iPhone, and before that, a long lineage of Palm devices), I can categorically state that it is easier to waterproof my iPhone or Treo than it is to waterproof just one paperback novel, let alone the entirety of my leather and paper based library. Also, it is infinitely easier to search the contents of an ebook, though the technology is still limited to literal text matches. Those are just two of the advantages of &quot;e-readers&quot; over p-books.

As for disadvantages, many of the complaints about the Kindle are those shared by technophiles who are voicing them in the very same reviews where they praise the device. The very common complaint about not being able to mark and annotate text has been solved in software. The real problem is that no one has come up with a good interface, except possibly in those labs researching touch sensitive displays and how we might want to use them.

Ultimately, it comes down to if we are willing to accept that reading long form text on a portable device is a viable option for the &quot;book&quot;. If we do, then it&#039;s worth considering the possibility (maybe the inevitability) that such devices will get more features and we might also change the way we read, and with that mindset, take a stab at imagining what the &quot;ideal&quot; e-text reader should be able to do. We shouldn&#039;t let Jeff Bezos confine our imaginations to the Kindle, and we should definitely not let the Authors Guild limit our use of legally &quot;purchased&quot; e-books.



@Indyanna
Your textual geiger counter already exists in the form of Google Books. Of course, we all know that not every book in the world has been digitized. And even if they were, good luck tracking down anything that&#039;s out of print and not very popular in its day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In defense of e-text readers (I read my e-texts mostly on my iPhone, and before that, a long lineage of Palm devices), I can categorically state that it is easier to waterproof my iPhone or Treo than it is to waterproof just one paperback novel, let alone the entirety of my leather and paper based library. Also, it is infinitely easier to search the contents of an ebook, though the technology is still limited to literal text matches. Those are just two of the advantages of &#8220;e-readers&#8221; over p-books.</p>
<p>As for disadvantages, many of the complaints about the Kindle are those shared by technophiles who are voicing them in the very same reviews where they praise the device. The very common complaint about not being able to mark and annotate text has been solved in software. The real problem is that no one has come up with a good interface, except possibly in those labs researching touch sensitive displays and how we might want to use them.</p>
<p>Ultimately, it comes down to if we are willing to accept that reading long form text on a portable device is a viable option for the &#8220;book&#8221;. If we do, then it&#8217;s worth considering the possibility (maybe the inevitability) that such devices will get more features and we might also change the way we read, and with that mindset, take a stab at imagining what the &#8220;ideal&#8221; e-text reader should be able to do. We shouldn&#8217;t let Jeff Bezos confine our imaginations to the Kindle, and we should definitely not let the Authors Guild limit our use of legally &#8220;purchased&#8221; e-books.</p>
<p>@Indyanna<br />
Your textual geiger counter already exists in the form of Google Books. Of course, we all know that not every book in the world has been digitized. And even if they were, good luck tracking down anything that&#8217;s out of print and not very popular in its day.</p>
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		<title>By: hysperia</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/02/24/burn-this-after-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-243456</link>
		<dc:creator>hysperia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last time I travelled I got charged by the airline for the extra weight of the books I was carrying.  That piqued my interest in Kindle but we don&#039;t have them in Canada.  Now here&#039;s a new kid in town:

In Canada, www.shortcovers.ca
and in the US, www.shortcovers.com

They just opened up shop today and so are still pretty limited in what they have to offer but I&#039;m sure that will improve.  What I like about this service is that it works with the Sony eReader but also, you can upload to an iPod or MP3 or to an iPhone as well as to your computer. You don&#039;t have to spend $400.  I don&#039;t know how useful this might be to me, but at least I don&#039;t have to spend all that money to find out.

You can read excerpts and chapters of books without buying them.  You can buy just a chapter of a book if that&#039;s all you want.  I really like this feature for deciding if I want to buy the book or not and for fishing out research and not necessarily a whole book every time.  Also, I sometimes find myself in places without bookstores and it will be great then, especially as they get more material digitalized. And honestly, it&#039;s not that hard to learn how to make notes on the page via your computer.

Re: Kindle, I read an article today pointing out that they have huge audio book resources and don&#039;t pay royalties to authors for them - the biggest business is still in the audio department.  I hope someone holds them up for this and soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time I travelled I got charged by the airline for the extra weight of the books I was carrying.  That piqued my interest in Kindle but we don&#8217;t have them in Canada.  Now here&#8217;s a new kid in town:</p>
<p>In Canada, <a href="http://www.shortcovers.ca" rel="nofollow">http://www.shortcovers.ca</a><br />
and in the US, <a href="http://www.shortcovers.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.shortcovers.com</a></p>
<p>They just opened up shop today and so are still pretty limited in what they have to offer but I&#8217;m sure that will improve.  What I like about this service is that it works with the Sony eReader but also, you can upload to an iPod or MP3 or to an iPhone as well as to your computer. You don&#8217;t have to spend $400.  I don&#8217;t know how useful this might be to me, but at least I don&#8217;t have to spend all that money to find out.</p>
<p>You can read excerpts and chapters of books without buying them.  You can buy just a chapter of a book if that&#8217;s all you want.  I really like this feature for deciding if I want to buy the book or not and for fishing out research and not necessarily a whole book every time.  Also, I sometimes find myself in places without bookstores and it will be great then, especially as they get more material digitalized. And honestly, it&#8217;s not that hard to learn how to make notes on the page via your computer.</p>
<p>Re: Kindle, I read an article today pointing out that they have huge audio book resources and don&#8217;t pay royalties to authors for them &#8211; the biggest business is still in the audio department.  I hope someone holds them up for this and soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Erica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 03:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a very salient point that &quot;this is REVOLUTIONARY!&quot; is never a reliable indicator of how long-lived a technology will be. The Walkman, for example; I was overjoyed when I got one as a child, but who needs a portable tape player nowadays? (Rather sad, because it still works just fine. Ah, robust 80&#039;s technology!) Even portable CD players are &lt;em&gt;soooo&lt;/em&gt; 1995. And while I&#039;m watching developments with interest (and I don&#039;t expect them to be rapid), Jeff Bezos is definitely overstating the potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a very salient point that &#8220;this is REVOLUTIONARY!&#8221; is never a reliable indicator of how long-lived a technology will be. The Walkman, for example; I was overjoyed when I got one as a child, but who needs a portable tape player nowadays? (Rather sad, because it still works just fine. Ah, robust 80&#8242;s technology!) Even portable CD players are <em>soooo</em> 1995. And while I&#8217;m watching developments with interest (and I don&#8217;t expect them to be rapid), Jeff Bezos is definitely overstating the potential.</p>
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		<title>By: susurro</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/02/24/burn-this-after-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-242989</link>
		<dc:creator>susurro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just discovered another feminist bookstore closed its doors and I thought of this post. Will feminist bookstores transform into independent feminist centers or will they simply close their doors when ebooks replace real books? So far the narrowing of the market has meant the latter not the former and with every closure the opportunities for non-academics to be exposed to feminist authors, artists, and musicians narrows and for queer youth to have somewhere they can go with less stigma attached than a youth center, dries up. Suddenly I find myself being far more political than self-interested in thinking about this issue. How do we honor different needs that are aided by Kindle and the like and those that are lost . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just discovered another feminist bookstore closed its doors and I thought of this post. Will feminist bookstores transform into independent feminist centers or will they simply close their doors when ebooks replace real books? So far the narrowing of the market has meant the latter not the former and with every closure the opportunities for non-academics to be exposed to feminist authors, artists, and musicians narrows and for queer youth to have somewhere they can go with less stigma attached than a youth center, dries up. Suddenly I find myself being far more political than self-interested in thinking about this issue. How do we honor different needs that are aided by Kindle and the like and those that are lost . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2009/02/24/burn-this-after-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-242617</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all of your comments on this topic.  I&#039;m sorry that I was out of the conversation yesterday--I taught and had other university business to attend to, and then when I got home I had to prepare a fish dinner for a family member who is taking Ash Wednesday and Lent very seriously this year.  

Knitting Clio, Susan, and others have convinced me that there is a market for e-books, especially given its power to make any book large print or otherwise accessible to those with limited eyesight due to medical disability or old age.  And I&#039;m certainly not making an absolutist argument that Kindle should be outlawed--I&#039;m just not sold on its utility for me, and for most scholars I know.  My concerns about the affordability and power to replace traditional books stand--again, I don&#039;t want to stop all e-book innovation or the explansion of e-libraries, but rather, I wonder how this new technology will work with our existing public library system.

Thanks also to Erica, overworked, kb, and a convert for their thoughts on the Sony e-book versus the Kindle.  

Tom is right to note that this conversation is taking place on a blog--indeed, it&#039;s taking place only because of blog technology.  (That&#039;s kind of what I was hinting at when I called my post &quot;Burn this after reading!&quot;)  I think his comments about the way that digital reading is changing reading are spot-on.  (At least they resonate with me.  I worry that I may be damaging my reading attention span by being on-line so much.)  And, he&#039;s a scholar with a millenia-plus perspective on the history of the book and of literacy, so his comments bear serious consideration.  By and large, I am thrilled by the digital revolution and what it has meant for reading, communicating, and scholarship.  I remain, however, quite skeptical of pronouncements that a new technology will replace everything that came before it because it is teh awesumm...kind of like &quot;Blog Triumphalism&quot; from ca. 2004 or so?

Great American Blog, indeed.  If anything, blogs have returned us to 18th century-style news circulation and consumption.  Most colonial Anglo-American newspapers published little original &quot;news&quot; or writing, and in fact just re-published stuff they ripped from English newspapers or other colonial papers, along with inflammatory opinion pieces and (usually failed) attempts at cheap humor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all of your comments on this topic.  I&#8217;m sorry that I was out of the conversation yesterday&#8211;I taught and had other university business to attend to, and then when I got home I had to prepare a fish dinner for a family member who is taking Ash Wednesday and Lent very seriously this year.  </p>
<p>Knitting Clio, Susan, and others have convinced me that there is a market for e-books, especially given its power to make any book large print or otherwise accessible to those with limited eyesight due to medical disability or old age.  And I&#8217;m certainly not making an absolutist argument that Kindle should be outlawed&#8211;I&#8217;m just not sold on its utility for me, and for most scholars I know.  My concerns about the affordability and power to replace traditional books stand&#8211;again, I don&#8217;t want to stop all e-book innovation or the explansion of e-libraries, but rather, I wonder how this new technology will work with our existing public library system.</p>
<p>Thanks also to Erica, overworked, kb, and a convert for their thoughts on the Sony e-book versus the Kindle.  </p>
<p>Tom is right to note that this conversation is taking place on a blog&#8211;indeed, it&#8217;s taking place only because of blog technology.  (That&#8217;s kind of what I was hinting at when I called my post &#8220;Burn this after reading!&#8221;)  I think his comments about the way that digital reading is changing reading are spot-on.  (At least they resonate with me.  I worry that I may be damaging my reading attention span by being on-line so much.)  And, he&#8217;s a scholar with a millenia-plus perspective on the history of the book and of literacy, so his comments bear serious consideration.  By and large, I am thrilled by the digital revolution and what it has meant for reading, communicating, and scholarship.  I remain, however, quite skeptical of pronouncements that a new technology will replace everything that came before it because it is teh awesumm&#8230;kind of like &#8220;Blog Triumphalism&#8221; from ca. 2004 or so?</p>
<p>Great American Blog, indeed.  If anything, blogs have returned us to 18th century-style news circulation and consumption.  Most colonial Anglo-American newspapers published little original &#8220;news&#8221; or writing, and in fact just re-published stuff they ripped from English newspapers or other colonial papers, along with inflammatory opinion pieces and (usually failed) attempts at cheap humor.</p>
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		<title>By: Clio Bluestocking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clio Bluestocking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. On the issue of low-income students. Maybe schools could cut deal with the makers of these to get discounts for the students. The savings might add up over the course of an education given the crushing cost of textbooks these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. On the issue of low-income students. Maybe schools could cut deal with the makers of these to get discounts for the students. The savings might add up over the course of an education given the crushing cost of textbooks these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Clio Bluestocking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clio Bluestocking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that I love the concept of changing between reading and listening (at least that&#039;s what the guy said it could do on The Daily Show).

Also, Knitting Clio makes an excellent point. I watch my grandmother, who loved to read, become cut off from books because of her eyesight and hearing. Something like this, in which she could bump up the font to a readable size or turn the volume up to 11, could bring her back to books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that I love the concept of changing between reading and listening (at least that&#8217;s what the guy said it could do on The Daily Show).</p>
<p>Also, Knitting Clio makes an excellent point. I watch my grandmother, who loved to read, become cut off from books because of her eyesight and hearing. Something like this, in which she could bump up the font to a readable size or turn the volume up to 11, could bring her back to books.</p>
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