Comments on: And the envelopes, please… http://www.historiann.com/2009/01/10/and-the-envelopes-please/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Mon, 22 Sep 2014 20:51:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2009/01/10/and-the-envelopes-please/comment-page-1/#comment-180716 Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:43:23 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=2900#comment-180716 Now, K.N., you have to teach the class in order to put it on your CV! (Or at least work up a syllabus and discuss it on a job interview.)

I’m so pleased you all had fun with this–except for Eduardo, who feels a little left out. Hey–that’s what the honorable mention was for, Eduardo!

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By: K.N. http://www.historiann.com/2009/01/10/and-the-envelopes-please/comment-page-1/#comment-180702 Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:23:17 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=2900#comment-180702 This is sooooo going on my C.V.—thanks for the honor!

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By: nicolec http://www.historiann.com/2009/01/10/and-the-envelopes-please/comment-page-1/#comment-180619 Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:45:02 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=2900#comment-180619 I’d like to thank the Association for giving me the opportunity to express my creative genius…
Wow, I’m touched- thanks historiann!
This was fun- and I too was very impressed with your readers’ responses! I’d like to take some of these classes- when can I sign up?

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By: Eduardo http://www.historiann.com/2009/01/10/and-the-envelopes-please/comment-page-1/#comment-180532 Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:54:30 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=2900#comment-180532 I was robbed!

You don’t like me, you really don’t like me.

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By: Liz2 http://www.historiann.com/2009/01/10/and-the-envelopes-please/comment-page-1/#comment-180213 Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:28:49 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=2900#comment-180213 I’m so excited to win an award! I haven’t been this excited since I got the Fulbright to do field research.

Seriously, I think it was an interesting exercise and it made me realize how much I base my courses on political history – because that was the first thing I thought of when trying to match the dates. So my survey this semester is going to veer away from the constant political and get into religion, gender, labor and a little Bongo Flava among other things.

Thanks again Historiann!

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By: Profane http://www.historiann.com/2009/01/10/and-the-envelopes-please/comment-page-1/#comment-179997 Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:16:10 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=2900#comment-179997 Yes Historiann, you read me correctly. At the risk of beating everyone over the head with the obvious point, a ‘Gilgamesh to Georgia’ course makes as much (or as little) sense as the ‘Plato to Nato’ courses which Europeanists have been teaching for the last two generations.

And hey, if Western Civ. courses had existed in the 1760s, who is to say that that would not have been the label? 8-P

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By: thefrogprincess http://www.historiann.com/2009/01/10/and-the-envelopes-please/comment-page-1/#comment-179811 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:13:31 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=2900#comment-179811 To the above (Ethan V.), even if it’s off topic: I’m not a professor, only a graduate student, but I had similar issues when I was in college. There’d been a traumatic death in my immediate family before I went to college and the fallout from it cast a shadow over my entire education. Still does, in fact. My experience is that professors value students who work hard, are extremely interested in the material, and have their own research interests, regardless of personal problems. They also see potential, even if you can’t. You’d also be amazed just how many students have similar struggles; college can be a rough time and good professors understand that. These professors surely must be impressed with the work you did during a time when your focus was understandably on other matters.

I had two or three professors that became mentors to me, even after I finished taking their classes. They knew the vague outlines of my problems, which did sometimes get in the way of my work, but I never got the sense they wanted me to back off. When it came time for grad school applications, they helped me refine my research interests and figure out what kinds of programs might be a good fit; most importantly they vouched for me, even though parts of my transcript were shaky because I’d been too depressed at times to do good work. I’m still in contact with them and they’ve become valued colleagues, friends, and mentors. I’m not exaggerating when I say I would not be in graduate school if I hadn’t sought them out. All of that is to say that you should certainly contact your professors, set up a few meetings with them or visit them during office hours, and see how it goes. You’ll probably sense if they’re interested in helping you or if they view you as a burden. Move on from those you get a bad vibe from and keep searching out those who will help. You should cast your net wide; even those who don’t work on your immediate area of interest might be helpful.

You should also probably stop reading RYS.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2009/01/10/and-the-envelopes-please/comment-page-1/#comment-179800 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:05:43 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=2900#comment-179800 Prof bw–I wasn’t really serious, but I thought my readers would be up to the task! It’s interesting how most of the courses that were pitched were courses that wouldn’t raise eyebrows at all in most course catalogs. (Even the destruction of English churches could work, if taught by an architectural historian! I think given “the spatial turn” that’s all the rage these days that it could be seen as ahead of its time, even! (Kudos to Eduardo!)

sm–thanks for contributing your suggestion. I’m all for it. And Judith–I’m glad to have provided a diversion. (Law exams? Sheesh!)

Indyanna–no apologies needed. (Although you could probably have delivered a provisional verdict on colonial Georgia for us!)

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2009/01/10/and-the-envelopes-please/comment-page-1/#comment-179789 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:01:29 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=2900#comment-179789 Well, this is very off topic Ethan, but I would say this: 1) pay no attention to RYS–it’s mostly just for venting, the way that Rate My Professor is, and I don’t know anyone who takes it seriously. 2) Go talk to your profs, especially those who work in the field/s you’re most interested in, and share your concerns with them and ask them if they’d be interested in assisting you with your research. I don’t know of any professors who would dismiss out of hand a highly successful student who shows serious interest in a given field.

It’s impossible to generalize about all professors, but I’d say that you need to talk to 2, 3 or 4 professors in particular, share your grad school dreams with them, and talk about areas of mutual interest.

And now, back to our awards show…

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By: Ethan V. http://www.historiann.com/2009/01/10/and-the-envelopes-please/comment-page-1/#comment-179706 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:20:27 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=2900#comment-179706 This may a little bit off topic (and perhaps thread jacking), but I could not think of a better forum to ask. I’ve been a long time lurker of your website and first time commenter. I read you for your wonderful insights but also because as a grad school oriented person, I like to understand how my professors think because I revere them and one day hope to work under them or similar people in my field.

At the same time, the site which must not be named has gotten me a bit paranoid of seeking help or further attention from my professors. I go to BIG STATE U by the coast and am seeking to participate in undergraduate research study (projects that I have created myself and only need a faculty mentor to guide me upon). I now ahve to ask one of these professors for guidance.

Last quarter I had quite terrible medical/family problems. I went to see said professors about it. Never asked for more time on anything, just wanted to let them know that I might not be able to attend class as much and that if I could come in for help that would be great. I worked my ass off and got high A’s on papers and midterms and finals.

Still, I wonder now about asking my professors for help with my research. The site which isn’t named has got me thinking professors despise anyone that seeks a chunk out of their time. I’ve scoured the site on what is considered ‘snowflakism’ but found no definition. I worry that I may have accidentally committed it with my actions last quarter.

This is a weird letter I know…but I have to specific questions:

Do professors despise people who have family situations like I do and was that snowflakism by RYS’s definition?

and

Do professors hate undergrad students asking them for help on a research (outside class) project?

Sorry again for the threadjacking….

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