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	<title>Comments on: How gud iz ur reeding comprehenshen and Barbie knitting skilz?</title>
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		<title>By: Indyanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indyanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that might be something that you &quot;just threw on&quot; if your &quot;house&quot; was 6,250sf, and looked out over the Hollywood sign!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that might be something that you &#8220;just threw on&#8221; if your &#8220;house&#8221; was 6,250sf, and looked out over the Hollywood sign!</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a housecoat, unless you&#039;re Ava Gardener or Lana Turner!  This is a housecoat to wear with mules with ormolu feathers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a housecoat, unless you&#8217;re Ava Gardener or Lana Turner!  This is a housecoat to wear with mules with ormolu feathers.</p>
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		<title>By: Indyanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indyanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 05:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....And not be a &quot;housecoat&quot;, too!  It would be interesting to see (or develop on a thread) a cultural etymology of the term &quot;housecoat.&quot;  Which for me evokes condescending images of Edith Bunker, or for that matter, other denizens of the (late) G.I. bill suburbs of the kind that I grew up in. This one would be a housecoat that kicks ass and takes names, as the saying goes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.And not be a &#8220;housecoat&#8221;, too!  It would be interesting to see (or develop on a thread) a cultural etymology of the term &#8220;housecoat.&#8221;  Which for me evokes condescending images of Edith Bunker, or for that matter, other denizens of the (late) G.I. bill suburbs of the kind that I grew up in. This one would be a housecoat that kicks ass and takes names, as the saying goes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 22:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for stopping by to comment, figleaf, and for the explanation of how these algorithms work.  It&#039;s such a relief!  I mean, I know I &lt;em&gt;act&lt;/em&gt; like a junior high student, but I think I write a little bit better than one.

And Indyanna--yes, the coat for sure.  That&#039;s a coat you could put on in November and take off in March--it looks comfy enough to wear in the house!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for stopping by to comment, figleaf, and for the explanation of how these algorithms work.  It&#8217;s such a relief!  I mean, I know I <em>act</em> like a junior high student, but I think I write a little bit better than one.</p>
<p>And Indyanna&#8211;yes, the coat for sure.  That&#8217;s a coat you could put on in November and take off in March&#8211;it looks comfy enough to wear in the house!</p>
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		<title>By: Indyanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indyanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to Jr. High School.  Jr. High School was a very interesting senator, but a not very good intellectual experience.  This blog is NOT Jr. High School.

I vote with the coat.  Try separating the blue thing and see if they work with different alternative components.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to Jr. High School.  Jr. High School was a very interesting senator, but a not very good intellectual experience.  This blog is NOT Jr. High School.</p>
<p>I vote with the coat.  Try separating the blue thing and see if they work with different alternative components.</p>
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		<title>By: figleaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>figleaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Historiann,

I used to work closely with instructional designers and technical writers and people sometimes sweated bullets over these numbers.  But the stress wasn&#039;t about getting up to genius level, it was to get down to sixth-grade level.

The trick?  These scales generally don&#039;t measure whether the *writer* is a genius, they measure whether you have to be a genius to *figure out what the writer&#039;s saying.*

The New Yorker, former home of Strunk and/or White, has a lower &quot;genius&quot; level because the magazine tends heavily towards articles that are very well written and meticulously edited.  If you&#039;re ranked on that end of the scale it&#039;s because you&#039;re a clear writer too.  DailyKOS probably ranks more towards genius because they often present very complex information (statistics, technical jargon, inside baseball.)  Atrios scores &quot;better&quot; because he tends towards very short, simple sentences with lots of, um, Anglo-Saxon words.

One last thing: the reason a 6th-grade reading level was the holy grail for technical writers *wasn&#039;t* that their users were morons.  Instead their users tended to be highly-skilled and very busy and therefore want to be able to skim for the information they needed very quickly.

All of which is a long way of saying &quot;congratulations.&quot;

figleaf

p.s. @Buzz: the statistical analysis behind the reading standards are complex but the algorithms themselves are pretty simple.  A sample the size of the average blog front page (18 word-processor pages for Historiann, for instance) would be more than adequate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Historiann,</p>
<p>I used to work closely with instructional designers and technical writers and people sometimes sweated bullets over these numbers.  But the stress wasn&#8217;t about getting up to genius level, it was to get down to sixth-grade level.</p>
<p>The trick?  These scales generally don&#8217;t measure whether the *writer* is a genius, they measure whether you have to be a genius to *figure out what the writer&#8217;s saying.*</p>
<p>The New Yorker, former home of Strunk and/or White, has a lower &#8220;genius&#8221; level because the magazine tends heavily towards articles that are very well written and meticulously edited.  If you&#8217;re ranked on that end of the scale it&#8217;s because you&#8217;re a clear writer too.  DailyKOS probably ranks more towards genius because they often present very complex information (statistics, technical jargon, inside baseball.)  Atrios scores &#8220;better&#8221; because he tends towards very short, simple sentences with lots of, um, Anglo-Saxon words.</p>
<p>One last thing: the reason a 6th-grade reading level was the holy grail for technical writers *wasn&#8217;t* that their users were morons.  Instead their users tended to be highly-skilled and very busy and therefore want to be able to skim for the information they needed very quickly.</p>
<p>All of which is a long way of saying &#8220;congratulations.&#8221;</p>
<p>figleaf</p>
<p>p.s. @Buzz: the statistical analysis behind the reading standards are complex but the algorithms themselves are pretty simple.  A sample the size of the average blog front page (18 word-processor pages for Historiann, for instance) would be more than adequate.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Damned Medievalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Damned Medievalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, apparently I&#039;m a man who writes at the Junior High level.  I&#039;m also apparently ISTP.

None of those are true of the real me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, apparently I&#8217;m a man who writes at the Junior High level.  I&#8217;m also apparently ISTP.</p>
<p>None of those are true of the real me.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sis, l I like your sense of style.  Yes, perhaps the same color but a contrasting fabric/texture, although that&#039;s a whole lotta bright turquoise.  Maybe we should change the color--although whatever color we choose, it could be just a lot of whatever color.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sis, l I like your sense of style.  Yes, perhaps the same color but a contrasting fabric/texture, although that&#8217;s a whole lotta bright turquoise.  Maybe we should change the color&#8211;although whatever color we choose, it could be just a lot of whatever color.</p>
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		<title>By: Sisyphus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sisyphus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the coat! The suit would only work if the skirt was a smooth shiny material instead of knitted. _I_ think.

PS most of the &quot;analyzers&quot; that run algorithms about web sites are based exclusively on word length and sentence length, not content at all. I&#039;m pretty sure that they come out of the &quot;fog index&quot; analyses newspapers developed to make sure their writing was accessible to the general public, which was assumed to have about a 9th grade education. So maybe those people who are mocking the &quot;simplicity&quot; of certain web sites should reconsider whether accessibility is a value, particularly in the public sphere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the coat! The suit would only work if the skirt was a smooth shiny material instead of knitted. _I_ think.</p>
<p>PS most of the &#8220;analyzers&#8221; that run algorithms about web sites are based exclusively on word length and sentence length, not content at all. I&#8217;m pretty sure that they come out of the &#8220;fog index&#8221; analyses newspapers developed to make sure their writing was accessible to the general public, which was assumed to have about a 9th grade education. So maybe those people who are mocking the &#8220;simplicity&#8221; of certain web sites should reconsider whether accessibility is a value, particularly in the public sphere.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KC--I think the gender analyzer thinks every blog I read are written by men, although few of them are.  I wonder what&#039;s going on?  Can anyone find a blog that the gender analyzer says was written by a woman?

Erica:  you&#039;re not selling me on the sweater suit.  Doesn&#039;t it look rather Maime Eisenhowerish?  Jackie O., not so much (or at all!)  Mamie--unfortunately, yes.  (I could see Jackie in the sweater, paired with a tight pair of skinny-legged jeans, or those 60s-style ski pants, but not the skirt.  Ever.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KC&#8211;I think the gender analyzer thinks every blog I read are written by men, although few of them are.  I wonder what&#8217;s going on?  Can anyone find a blog that the gender analyzer says was written by a woman?</p>
<p>Erica:  you&#8217;re not selling me on the sweater suit.  Doesn&#8217;t it look rather Maime Eisenhowerish?  Jackie O., not so much (or at all!)  Mamie&#8211;unfortunately, yes.  (I could see Jackie in the sweater, paired with a tight pair of skinny-legged jeans, or those 60s-style ski pants, but not the skirt.  Ever.)</p>
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