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		<title>By: the good old days &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Retro Recipe Attempt: Mock Apple Pie</title>
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		<dc:creator>the good old days &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Retro Recipe Attempt: Mock Apple Pie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week&#8217;s retro cooking was inspired largely by comments on Historiann&#8217;s post about my Not-So-Orange Velvet Pie. I&#8217;d never heard of the Mock Apple Pie which was mentioned [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] week&#8217;s retro cooking was inspired largely by comments on Historiann&#8217;s post about my Not-So-Orange Velvet Pie. I&#8217;d never heard of the Mock Apple Pie which was mentioned [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Indyanna</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2008/10/03/retro-recipie-attempts-at-the-good-old-days/comment-page-1/#comment-93908</link>
		<dc:creator>Indyanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Won&#039;t even require monetizing (the shirts part, I mean). Everyone could design their own favorite shirt, &quot;source&quot; it locally, and send in the image for potential posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Won&#8217;t even require monetizing (the shirts part, I mean). Everyone could design their own favorite shirt, &#8220;source&#8221; it locally, and send in the image for potential posting.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2008/10/03/retro-recipie-attempts-at-the-good-old-days/comment-page-1/#comment-93842</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Indyanna, I guess you could offer colonial campfire cookies!

And Rose, I&#039;m glad you like &quot;the good old days.&quot;  (Tom, you can still send Xmas cookies--I&#039;ll have to work on the shirt.)

I&#039;m sure many of you have already seen the T-shirt that says, &quot;More people have read this T-shirt than have read your stupid blog.&quot;  I think most of us academics could get T-shirts that say, &quot;More people have read this T-shirt than have read my stupid book,&quot; and that would probably be accurate, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Indyanna, I guess you could offer colonial campfire cookies!</p>
<p>And Rose, I&#8217;m glad you like &#8220;the good old days.&#8221;  (Tom, you can still send Xmas cookies&#8211;I&#8217;ll have to work on the shirt.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure many of you have already seen the T-shirt that says, &#8220;More people have read this T-shirt than have read your stupid blog.&#8221;  I think most of us academics could get T-shirts that say, &#8220;More people have read this T-shirt than have read my stupid book,&#8221; and that would probably be accurate, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Indyanna</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2008/10/03/retro-recipie-attempts-at-the-good-old-days/comment-page-1/#comment-93697</link>
		<dc:creator>Indyanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 03:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Historiann,

I realized right after I hit send yesterday that neither of my ovens (@Philly or in Bituminosia) actually works, in the sense of heating up!  So I might have had to &quot;bake&quot; these things on a sheet propped over an open fire in the backyard.  Except that I also don&#039;t really have a yard at either place.  All that said, I would like to have a T-shirt for next summer; I even have a good design in mind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Historiann,</p>
<p>I realized right after I hit send yesterday that neither of my ovens (@Philly or in Bituminosia) actually works, in the sense of heating up!  So I might have had to &#8220;bake&#8221; these things on a sheet propped over an open fire in the backyard.  Except that I also don&#8217;t really have a yard at either place.  All that said, I would like to have a T-shirt for next summer; I even have a good design in mind!</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, Historiann--I *do* really enjoy that blog!  Thanks for bringing it to my attention.  As Tom notes, above, his parents still engage in some pretty retro foodways, but *my* parents actually have retro FOOD in their house.  Seriously--stuff that no one&#039;s seen on a grocery store shelf since 1967.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Historiann&#8211;I *do* really enjoy that blog!  Thanks for bringing it to my attention.  As Tom notes, above, his parents still engage in some pretty retro foodways, but *my* parents actually have retro FOOD in their house.  Seriously&#8211;stuff that no one&#8217;s seen on a grocery store shelf since 1967.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 21:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christmas pudding made with suet is a long standing family tradition where I come from (though it seems to get ever harder to find good suet, most of which is destined for bird feeders, I guess).  I love it, of course, but somehow Rose never seems quite as enthusiastic.  And I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;ve eaten the mock apple pie; another tradition on the old homestead is mock mincemeat, which I also love.  Mockery, just generally, I guess, was an old tradition at home, now that I think of it.

And maybe we&#039;ll send you some Xmas cookies, Historiann, if you up the ante on the prizes to Historiann-logo T-shirts.  Oh wait, I guess you decided against monetizing, didn&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christmas pudding made with suet is a long standing family tradition where I come from (though it seems to get ever harder to find good suet, most of which is destined for bird feeders, I guess).  I love it, of course, but somehow Rose never seems quite as enthusiastic.  And I&#8217;m pretty sure I&#8217;ve eaten the mock apple pie; another tradition on the old homestead is mock mincemeat, which I also love.  Mockery, just generally, I guess, was an old tradition at home, now that I think of it.</p>
<p>And maybe we&#8217;ll send you some Xmas cookies, Historiann, if you up the ante on the prizes to Historiann-logo T-shirts.  Oh wait, I guess you decided against monetizing, didn&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Sisyphus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sisyphus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 19:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, I want my readers to send me cookies! Brilliant plan, Historiann! 

And I wouldn&#039;t be able to eat any of the foods even from when I was growing up any more ... mom hasn&#039;t cooked any of them since she had to do on a low-cholesterol diet. 

But speaking of baking, I remember when she used to make pies from scratch and had a little extra lump of dough, she used to make &quot;cinnamon sugar pie,&quot; which was a thin little mini crust baked up with lots of cinnamon and sugar on top. Kinda like a cross between a snickerdoodle and a really crispy dessert quesadilla. Yum!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, I want my readers to send me cookies! Brilliant plan, Historiann! </p>
<p>And I wouldn&#8217;t be able to eat any of the foods even from when I was growing up any more &#8230; mom hasn&#8217;t cooked any of them since she had to do on a low-cholesterol diet. </p>
<p>But speaking of baking, I remember when she used to make pies from scratch and had a little extra lump of dough, she used to make &#8220;cinnamon sugar pie,&#8221; which was a thin little mini crust baked up with lots of cinnamon and sugar on top. Kinda like a cross between a snickerdoodle and a really crispy dessert quesadilla. Yum!</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Little Midwestern College, as I recall (and as Indyanna suggests), &quot;Mock Apple Pie&quot; was a recipe on the back of the Ritz Cracker box in the 1970s.  How interesting that that even-higher-carb &quot;apple&quot; pie recipe has such deep roots--I never would have guessed that!  Thanks for the fun facts.

And, Indyanna--the cookie contest was just a joke about trying to get my readers to do my holiday baking for me...but if you insist...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Little Midwestern College, as I recall (and as Indyanna suggests), &#8220;Mock Apple Pie&#8221; was a recipe on the back of the Ritz Cracker box in the 1970s.  How interesting that that even-higher-carb &#8220;apple&#8221; pie recipe has such deep roots&#8211;I never would have guessed that!  Thanks for the fun facts.</p>
<p>And, Indyanna&#8211;the cookie contest was just a joke about trying to get my readers to do my holiday baking for me&#8230;but if you insist&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Indyanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indyanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 03:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you waited all year for something spectacular from, say, Cakewrecks, I think that orange thing (how did the slice end up being so un-orange?) would be a bit of a letdown. Those old church auxilliary community-gathered fund-raiser cookbooks were/are great documents, however.  I&#039;m remembering that that mock apple pie recipe enjoyed a surge of popularity back in the--well, it wasn&#039;t the EIGHTEEN-fifties that I&#039;m remembering!!--and, despite my eight year old skepticism, it was really quite good and convincing. I&#039;m e-mailing my sister tomorrow (wait, she doesn&#039;t use e-mail) for an old family recipe to take a run at that holiday cookie contest you announced, Historiann!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you waited all year for something spectacular from, say, Cakewrecks, I think that orange thing (how did the slice end up being so un-orange?) would be a bit of a letdown. Those old church auxilliary community-gathered fund-raiser cookbooks were/are great documents, however.  I&#8217;m remembering that that mock apple pie recipe enjoyed a surge of popularity back in the&#8211;well, it wasn&#8217;t the EIGHTEEN-fifties that I&#8217;m remembering!!&#8211;and, despite my eight year old skepticism, it was really quite good and convincing. I&#8217;m e-mailing my sister tomorrow (wait, she doesn&#8217;t use e-mail) for an old family recipe to take a run at that holiday cookie contest you announced, Historiann!</p>
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		<title>By: Little Midwestern College</title>
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		<dc:creator>Little Midwestern College</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 01:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Historiann, great post, made me smile.  The other day in my class on nineteenth century frontier women we read an 1850s text that referenced &quot;mock apple pie&quot; made of crackers, water, sugar, and spiced with cinnamon and cloves in pie crust (no actual apples at all), which horrified my students.  I had to fess up to them that I&#039;ve actually had it (made by my grandma, of course, who was very thrifty, from a mid-twentieth century version of the recipe using saltines crackers)--it&#039;s really not that bad.  But then we also liked the sugar sandwiches she made for us. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Historiann, great post, made me smile.  The other day in my class on nineteenth century frontier women we read an 1850s text that referenced &#8220;mock apple pie&#8221; made of crackers, water, sugar, and spiced with cinnamon and cloves in pie crust (no actual apples at all), which horrified my students.  I had to fess up to them that I&#8217;ve actually had it (made by my grandma, of course, who was very thrifty, from a mid-twentieth century version of the recipe using saltines crackers)&#8211;it&#8217;s really not that bad.  But then we also liked the sugar sandwiches she made for us. . .</p>
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