Comments on: This is now officially a post-Rachel blog

By: andrew andy anderson

andrew andy anderson — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 04:50:15 +0000

Miss Maddow : re : comment to post if you wish , I am here by releasing my permission to post with no reprocushin’s period.I beleive as an average articulated american,after 35 yr’s of const’s,lath plaster, drywall, paint,union and other wise,include’s,wall coverings and decorating experiance also, and contracting, from the Ice Capade’s, up and trough the Sigfreed & Roys’ animal habita’s,also their Home west of the Vegas Strip, no. of Vegas drv.,not to exclude the Rockettes stage and dressing,show room’s when they came to town. Well my comment after a short history. I beleive the so called rightous right do not understand American’s as working class hero’s that built this nation,I would have liked to have gone to collage,except I grew up of,a the product of the 50′s 60′s & 70′s and did not have the monatary advantige of other’s thank’s to the pollitition’s of the era,and the money grabing foundation’s,war’s,and the starting of the Corporation’s, and ultimataly enabled just what this nation is now, a corporation nation, for the lust for their money,power and greed,which may be the Nation’s down fall if the republicant’s manage to gain controll once again and keep up with the obstuctive tacktic’s they have used since the 50′s and exspecally the 60′s by taking out JFK so the eragunt SOB , LBJ from TX the lone roadapple state. I recall before K school watching the debate on B&W TV RMN & JFK and I said to myself that Jack was going to win, that is what Walter C. call him @ the time. If the Dem’s don’t fire it up , they will end up just like everyone else in this Nation, broke,unemployable and unemployeed. Thankz for the time and thought in advance, you may put in to this comment Average Articulated American Andy Anderson, 4 of a kind W/an ace kicker L. V. Nv. 89107

By: Historiann: I’ll be darned, I’m right again! : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present

Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:39:19 +0000

[...] full of promise, so smart on Air America, and such a total sellout on MSNBC–and Historiann saw it coming all along. Say it: you were right, [...]

By: Historiann

Historiann — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:51:24 +0000

Thanks for the anecdote, Stephanie. Gee, I wonder why patronizing people doesn’t work in luring them over to your side?

By: Stephanie

Stephanie — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:55:14 +0000

I recall listening to maddow on the radio talking to a woman who had been a hillary supporter, and who did not want to vote for obama. This was before the convention. Maddow asked in such gentle, kind, soft-spoken tones, well what is the problem? You are a Hillary supporter, Hillary now says she is supporting Obama, she wants you to support Obama, so why aren’t you doing what Hillary asks? You supported Hillary, now Hillary says vote for Obama, why aren’t you listening, why aren’t you following Hillary and Hillary’s advice?

In the the softest, kindest, gentlest voice — the kind you would use with a child who was not old enough to be rational yet; i.e. patronizing.

You liked/followed Hillary, why aren’t you obeying her now?

Uh, cuz Hillary doesn’t tell who to vote for. duh.

By: Historiann

Historiann — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:17:25 +0000

Mama, Tracey, and all: there is an interesting discussion going on at Corrente about voting. Three questions under discussion in this post are:

1. Is loyalty to the D most important to you? If yes, then vote for Obama. Period. 2. Is loyalty to democratic principles most important to you? If yes, then you are probably concerned with process violations at the RBC and in the caucuses. If yes, then you could withhold your vote for the top of the ticket, or vote for McCain. 3. Do you believe that voting for the best candidate for President is most important, and that [McCain|Obama] is that candidate? Then vote for [McCain|Obama]**.

There are other questions too--much to think about.

By: Tracey

Tracey — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:59:52 +0000

Dear Mama

As a Hillary supporter who is voting for McCain, let me explain to you how I could be so “daft.” I am a registered Democrat, and have been so my entire adult life, because I have found the Democratic Party most closely aligned with my interests. However, when I decided to vote for Hillary it was not on the bases of policy positions. The reality is there wasn’t that much difference between her policy positions and that of the other candidates. On policy, any of the front leaders in the Democratic primary race would have been acceptable. My decision to vote for Hillary was based on my belief that she would be the most capable, the best, at performing the day-to-day duties that a president faces. As a woman in my fifties, during my lifetime, I have seen both good and bad Republicans and Democrats hold office. I do believe that competence trumps policy when it comes to doing what is best for the country. A bad Democratic president can do as much damage as a bad Republican president. You may not agree with my assessment of the candidates, or with my using competence as the overriding standard, however it is hardly irrational to use competence as a standard for judging a candidate.

By: Mama

Mama — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:59:11 +0000

AND ANY REPUBLICAN WHO WANT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA THAT MAKES NO SENSE EITHER BUT IF THEY FEEL MOVED THAT’S THEIR BUSINESS, I KNOW MODERATES, INDEPENDENTS AND DEMOCRATS CAN ALL VOTE FOR OBAMA IF THEY LIKE. MY ISSUE IS WITH FOLKS WHO SO CALLED CLAIM THEY VOTED FOR HILARY NOT BECAUSE OF HER GENDER BUT RATHER HER POINTS ON ISSUES THAT THEY APPROVE, WHY THEN WILL U GO FOR MCCAIN WHO IS CONTRARY IN EVERY MEANING OF THE WORD WITH HILARY’S IDEALS? MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL. GO CHECK MCCAIN’S VOTING RECORD ON THE CONGRESS WEBSITE AND COMPARE IT TO OBAMA AND HILARY’S OWN. I CAN ATTEST THAT OBAMA’S VOTING RECORD IS SIMILAR TO HILARY’S OWN 85% OF THE TIMES WHILST MCCAIN OWN SPELLS CONTRARY 95% OF THE TIMES. DO YOU RESEARCH PEOPLE.

By: Mama

Mama — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:55:51 +0000

I agree with Rachel.. it makes no sense for someone who is clinton supporter, as most of them have said they are not voting for her because she is a woman but rather because of her stance on policies etc to then go and vote for mccain when he has been against everything clinton has stood and fought for. That makes no sense at all! If you don’t like obama, then don’t vote for him but don’t tell me ur going to vote for mccain who has voted against women issues and not supported nationwide healthcare which hilary clinton is for, how can you be so daft? Even if to support Palin because she is a woman, she also has the same policies, even stricter ones than mccain because she is a staunch republican. Hilary supporters who don’t want obama and decide not to vote, I cant be upset at that, it’s a preference but the ones voting for mccain are just plain dumb and rachel is right, it’s nose rational. Ur running from the demon and instead is running into his coffin?

By: prof bw

prof bw — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:39:59 +0000

too true

By: Historiann

Historiann — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:31:03 +0000

Prof bw–I agree with your approach to politics and share it. My only point is that the majority of voters go with their guts and “feelings,” rather than looking hard at policy positions and thinking about what’s right for them, their families, and the nation. I *wish* there were more rationality, but that’s not how the game is won. (And, it’s not just the crazy bitches who don’t vote rationally–in fact, it’s working- and middle-class white men that put Republicans over the top, every time.)

If McCain/Pailn wins, we’ll have a series of serious problems, indeed!