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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2008/08/23/joe-biden/comment-page-1/#comment-62124</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And p.s.:  Maybe &lt;a href=&quot;http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2008/08/biden.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post by Melissa McEwan&lt;/a&gt; at Shakesville sums things up for you all?

Vice Presidents, except for the sitting VP, are historically overlooked and/or actively shunned when it comes to making actual policy.  That may console you, or further concern you, but I think it&#039;s worth remembering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And p.s.:  Maybe <a href="http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2008/08/biden.html" rel="nofollow">this post by Melissa McEwan</a> at Shakesville sums things up for you all?</p>
<p>Vice Presidents, except for the sitting VP, are historically overlooked and/or actively shunned when it comes to making actual policy.  That may console you, or further concern you, but I think it&#8217;s worth remembering.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2008/08/23/joe-biden/comment-page-1/#comment-62077</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 03:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to KC for getting the jump!

Wow--you all are pretty disgusted.  Certainly much more than me, but I have no expectations of Obama so I can&#039;t be disappointed.  I like this post by Big Tent Democrat called &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/8/23/144456/904&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Given the Obama Rules, Biden was the Best Choice Politically&lt;/a&gt;.&quot;  Shorter BTD:  given that Obama would never choose Clinton or Clark, Biden was the most helpful choice among the others at the back of the pack (Bayh, Kaine, Sebelius).  Rad, you are the voice of doom in your household--are they also getting worried, or are they drinking the Kool-Aid?  (You&#039;re not the only one--a friend of mine at work confided that he&#039;s worried now too.)

Also, please see my correction above--my run started around 11,800, and while it was up and down, overall it was downhill to 10,800.  I&#039;ll post more on this tomorrow--it was nice up there, although overcast and threatening thunderstorms.  Even then, you can see forever up there, which is pretty cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to KC for getting the jump!</p>
<p>Wow&#8211;you all are pretty disgusted.  Certainly much more than me, but I have no expectations of Obama so I can&#8217;t be disappointed.  I like this post by Big Tent Democrat called &#8220;<a href="http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/8/23/144456/904" rel="nofollow">Given the Obama Rules, Biden was the Best Choice Politically</a>.&#8221;  Shorter BTD:  given that Obama would never choose Clinton or Clark, Biden was the most helpful choice among the others at the back of the pack (Bayh, Kaine, Sebelius).  Rad, you are the voice of doom in your household&#8211;are they also getting worried, or are they drinking the Kool-Aid?  (You&#8217;re not the only one&#8211;a friend of mine at work confided that he&#8217;s worried now too.)</p>
<p>Also, please see my correction above&#8211;my run started around 11,800, and while it was up and down, overall it was downhill to 10,800.  I&#8217;ll post more on this tomorrow&#8211;it was nice up there, although overcast and threatening thunderstorms.  Even then, you can see forever up there, which is pretty cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Rad readr</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2008/08/23/joe-biden/comment-page-1/#comment-62035</link>
		<dc:creator>Rad readr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I told my household this morning to get ready for the taste of defeat again in November. The road looks very familiar. Frivolous Republican attacks in August and Sept, inability of the blue suit to defend himself or strike back in a convincing way, choice of a vp candidate who is unspiring and can&#039;t deliver any states. 

Too bad McCain has sold his soul to Republican evil because clearly Obama has sold his soul to Democrat LOSERS. Biden is a response to the McCain agenda. Mc is back -- and he is now setting the terms of the debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I told my household this morning to get ready for the taste of defeat again in November. The road looks very familiar. Frivolous Republican attacks in August and Sept, inability of the blue suit to defend himself or strike back in a convincing way, choice of a vp candidate who is unspiring and can&#8217;t deliver any states. </p>
<p>Too bad McCain has sold his soul to Republican evil because clearly Obama has sold his soul to Democrat LOSERS. Biden is a response to the McCain agenda. Mc is back &#8212; and he is now setting the terms of the debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Knitting Clio</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2008/08/23/joe-biden/comment-page-1/#comment-61807</link>
		<dc:creator>Knitting Clio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.s.  I think the exact words were something like &quot;to walk into a 7-11 you have to have a slight Indian accent.&quot;

Maybe the guy has watched too many episodes of &quot;The Simpsons.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.s.  I think the exact words were something like &#8220;to walk into a 7-11 you have to have a slight Indian accent.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe the guy has watched too many episodes of &#8220;The Simpsons.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Knitting Clio</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2008/08/23/joe-biden/comment-page-1/#comment-61804</link>
		<dc:creator>Knitting Clio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, he is the one who marveled at how clean and attractive Obama was (man crush?!)  He also said something really offensive about East Indians and 7-11s.  Oh happy, happy joy-joy -- I hope he has a bicycle to help him with all the backpedaling that he&#039;s going to have to do over the next few months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, he is the one who marveled at how clean and attractive Obama was (man crush?!)  He also said something really offensive about East Indians and 7-11s.  Oh happy, happy joy-joy &#8212; I hope he has a bicycle to help him with all the backpedaling that he&#8217;s going to have to do over the next few months.</p>
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		<title>By: Notorious Ph.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Notorious Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biden.  I just... Biden.  Wasn&#039;t this the guy who shot himself in the foot only two days after declaring his candidacy by referring to Obama as &quot;clean&quot; or something?

Okay.  ((deep breath)) .  Not exciting.  But probably had the best foreign policy knowledge of any of the candidates.  I&#039;ve seen him speak, and he&#039;s smart.  But I was still hoping for Kathleen Sebelius,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biden.  I just&#8230; Biden.  Wasn&#8217;t this the guy who shot himself in the foot only two days after declaring his candidacy by referring to Obama as &#8220;clean&#8221; or something?</p>
<p>Okay.  ((deep breath)) .  Not exciting.  But probably had the best foreign policy knowledge of any of the candidates.  I&#8217;ve seen him speak, and he&#8217;s smart.  But I was still hoping for Kathleen Sebelius,</p>
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		<title>By: Knitting Clio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knitting Clio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For once, being on EST has worked in my favor and I&#039;ve posted on this before you!  ;-)  I hope you had a good run.  It&#039;s still summer here -- 80 degrees, humid, typical August weather.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For once, being on EST has worked in my favor and I&#8217;ve posted on this before you!  <img src='http://www.historiann.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   I hope you had a good run.  It&#8217;s still summer here &#8212; 80 degrees, humid, typical August weather.</p>
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		<title>By: Indyanna</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2008/08/23/joe-biden/comment-page-1/#comment-61696</link>
		<dc:creator>Indyanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only thing is, I think Kaine is Woody Holton&#039;s brother-in-law (back of the envelope genealogy after reading a biosketch the other week).  Although at best, that would be a sort of proverbial &quot;seventeenth tie-breaker,&quot; to have a historian within a few heartbeats of the Oval Office!

Enjoy the run, bring along the puma-repellant, and here&#039;s to a great semester!  I wish I was driving that futuramic red car above up Sideling Hill (c. 2400 ft) tomorrow into the used-to-be-mountains!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only thing is, I think Kaine is Woody Holton&#8217;s brother-in-law (back of the envelope genealogy after reading a biosketch the other week).  Although at best, that would be a sort of proverbial &#8220;seventeenth tie-breaker,&#8221; to have a historian within a few heartbeats of the Oval Office!</p>
<p>Enjoy the run, bring along the puma-repellant, and here&#8217;s to a great semester!  I wish I was driving that futuramic red car above up Sideling Hill (c. 2400 ft) tomorrow into the used-to-be-mountains!</p>
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		<title>By: Roxie</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2008/08/23/joe-biden/comment-page-1/#comment-61667</link>
		<dc:creator>Roxie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have a good run.  I&#039;m thinking a lot of Dems will be heading for the hills before this thing is over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have a good run.  I&#8217;m thinking a lot of Dems will be heading for the hills before this thing is over.</p>
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